mitch blatt said:
I've decided to do some Thieves Guild quests, then side jobs and two influence quests, then another main quest, then more side/influence jobs, then the rest of the main quest. I can't decide what order to hit the cities in, though. The quests for Markarth and Windhelm both have you return items to NPCs, which seems like it contradicts the premise of a guild devoted to stealing.
I think the devs were intending for returning the Skeleton Key to the Twilight Sepulchre to be an ironic twist (player dialogue calls it the "first time I ever set out to return something"), but I feel like it wouldn't be much of a twist if the player has experience returning Endon's mold and Fjotli's locket. On the other hand, it wouldn't make sense for the guy who stopped Mercer and restored the Guild's luck to have to do a bunch of comparatively petty/lesser jobs before they can be made Guildmaster.
Maybe you could RP that they're friends of the guild? Like how some shops have a mark on them to show they're protected, or at least off limit for members to steal from. They could be moles, or maybe help run a fraudulent or blackmail racket in the city. Or maybe they're old friends of a senior guild member (ie Delvin or Vex) who wants to repay them a favour.
Vezrabuto said:
Hey guysI wanted to know if Anyone has interesting and unique ways to learn Spells instead of simply just learning it. This is my current way of Learning Spells.
You buy the Spellbook and seek out youre Research area or comfort zone ( like a Temple for a Priest or Nature for a Druid).
Then read the Book and wait a certain amount of hours factoring in Spell level, Skill Level and the spells Complexity, learning to tranform Iron into pure Gold would be more complex than learning to summon and shoot Fire.
The next stage is Practical training. for example
My Necromancer learned the Spell "Raise Zombie" by going outside and experimenting on Rabbits and Foxes. How much damage can it take, how long does the Spell last, can multipe corpses be animated at once, what happens on "re-death".
He also learned "Oakflesh" by determining what damage sources get reduced. He jumped off a Balcony, stepped on a campfire, got hit by a sword, got bitten by wolfs.
Be creative and Experiment :D
The book Breathing Water sums up how I feel about this. Magic is the type of thing that you throw yourself into, letting it take over until you have complete faith in it. It requires practice more so to gain familiarity and confidence rather than skill.
Your examples are brilliant as well, especially the Oakflesh one. It's almost like a science, identifying risks and shifting the magic appropriately. Your Raise Zombie is also very scientific, and it makes sense to me - can you really control something unless you know everything there is to know about something? I prefer to go for a more 'feeling' based approach, but I like both ways.
I guess you could apply the types of learning in real life to magic, if you approach it as a typical subject and not something with inherent proficiency. Some people are visual learners, so going for a 'class' at the college (ie chilling in the Arcaneum and 'watching' a professor for a bit) would be the best way forward etc.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/mitchblatt]mitch blatt[/url] said:[/b]
I've decided to do some Thieves Guild quests, then side jobs and two influence quests, then another main quest, then more side/influence jobs, then the rest of the main quest. I can't decide what order to hit the cities in, though. The quests for Markarth and Windhelm both have you return items to NPCs, which seems like it contradicts the premise of a guild devoted to stealing.
I think the devs were intending for returning the Skeleton Key to the Twilight Sepulchre to be an ironic twist (player dialogue calls it the "[i]first time[/i] I ever set out to return something"), but I feel like it wouldn't be much of a twist if the player has experience returning Endon's mold and Fjotli's locket. On the other hand, it wouldn't make sense for the guy who stopped Mercer and restored the Guild's luck to have to do a bunch of comparatively petty/lesser jobs before they can be made Guildmaster.
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Maybe you could RP that they're friends of the guild? Like how some shops have a mark on them to show they're protected, or at least off limit for members to steal from. They could be moles, or maybe help run a fraudulent or blackmail racket in the city. Or maybe they're old friends of a senior guild member (ie Delvin or Vex) who wants to repay them a favour.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Vezrabuto]Vezrabuto[/url] said:[/b]
Hey guysI wanted to know if Anyone has interesting and unique ways to learn Spells instead of simply just learning it. This is my current way of Learning Spells.
You buy the Spellbook and seek out youre Research area or comfort zone ( like a Temple for a Priest or Nature for a Druid).
Then read the Book and wait a certain amount of hours factoring in Spell level, Skill Level and the spells Complexity, learning to tranform Iron into pure Gold would be more complex than learning to summon and shoot Fire.
The next stage is Practical training. for example
My Necromancer learned the Spell "Raise Zombie" by going outside and experimenting on Rabbits and Foxes. How much damage can it take, how long does the Spell last, can multipe corpses be animated at once, what happens on "re-death".
He also learned "Oakflesh" by determining what damage sources get reduced. He jumped off a Balcony, stepped on a campfire, got hit by a sword, got bitten by wolfs.
Be creative and Experiment :D
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The book Breathing Water sums up how I feel about this. Magic is the type of thing that you throw yourself into, letting it take over until you have complete faith in it. It requires practice more so to gain familiarity and confidence rather than skill.
Your examples are brilliant as well, especially the Oakflesh one. It's almost like a science, identifying risks and shifting the magic appropriately. Your Raise Zombie is also very scientific, and it makes sense to me - can you really control something unless you know everything there is to know about something? I prefer to go for a more 'feeling' based approach, but I like both ways.
I guess you could apply the types of learning in real life to magic, if you approach it as a typical subject and not something with inherent proficiency. Some people are visual learners, so going for a 'class' at the college (ie chilling in the Arcaneum and 'watching' a professor for a bit) would be the best way forward etc.
