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Unlimited Concentration Casting

• Vazgen

  

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  June 3, 2014

  Upper limit is not fixed. It's base magicka + 127 so it changes depending on base magicka. Once the base magicka reaches the first available limit (127) things get weird. I'm willing to consider the possibility of tests being skewed. The save became so heavy it now takes 2-3 minutes to load when it's usually a few seconds. A character is a level 1 Khajiit so no items etc. causes it. I also think it may have connection to multiple magicka regeneration rates the game has.

  Upper limit is not fixed. It's base magicka + 127 so it changes depending on base magicka. Once the base magicka reaches the first available limit (127) things get weird. I'm willing to consider the possibility of tests being skewed. The save became so heavy it now takes 2-3 minutes to load when it's usually a few seconds. A character is a level 1 Khajiit so no items etc. causes it. I also think it may have connection to multiple magicka regeneration rates the game has.

• Parabola

  

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  June 3, 2014

  Hang on - Philter, Draught, Philter and two +50's works ... But that disobeys everything that we've found so far - it's adding 156.8 overall which is both above 127 and isn't .4! Vazgen, could you try +156.8 and see what you get? Could it be possible that x.8 works in an entirely different range?

  It's not that each item is ok in itself as Potion, Draught with two +40's doesn't work.

  I'm becoming more confused the more we look at this. We have found lots of useful combinations though so that's something!

  Hang on - Philter, Draught, Philter and two +50's works ... But that disobeys everything that we've found so far - it's adding 156.8 overall which is both above 127 and isn't .4! Vazgen, could you try +156.8 and see what you get? Could it be possible that x.8 works in an entirely different range?

  It's not that each item is ok in itself as Potion, Draught with two +40's doesn't work.

  I'm becoming more confused the more we look at this. We have found lots of useful combinations though so that's something!

• Parabola

  

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  June 3, 2014

  I'm really hoping you can! I got started on all this because I wanted to play a variant of the Seraphim who had a heavier reliance on the unlimited wards by not having the spell absorption from the atronach stone. Now I'm spending all my time in Radiant Raiment experimenting ...

  I'm really hoping you can! I got started on all this because I wanted to play a variant of the Seraphim who had a heavier reliance on the unlimited wards by not having the spell absorption from the atronach stone. Now I'm spending all my time in Radiant Raiment experimenting ...

• Vazgen

  

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  June 3, 2014

  156.8 works and it's the lowest number for .8. The highest is 255.8 

  156.8 works and it's the lowest number for .8. The highest is 255.8 

• Parabola

  

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  June 3, 2014

  These numbers are looking suspicious (again). 127->128 and 255->256. Something to do with the binary calculations?!

  These numbers are looking suspicious (again). 127->128 and 255->256. Something to do with the binary calculations?!

• Vazgen

  

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  June 3, 2014

  I really can't say. I'd expect the first value at least have some connection to the one of .4 but no. It may be connected to how Skyrim rounds numbers, which, I believe is always down, no matter if .8 or .4. Their engine is kind of an outdated mess  IMO it's better to stick with low values, get 42% Fortify Restoration potion and one item of Minor Magicka and be done with it. I also can't claim my tests be entirely accurate to base something on them. It might be a mess to play Mason's build as an Altmer 

  I really can't say. I'd expect the first value at least have some connection to the one of .4 but no. It may be connected to how Skyrim rounds numbers, which, I believe is always down, no matter if .8 or .4. Their engine is kind of an outdated mess  IMO it's better to stick with low values, get 42% Fortify Restoration potion and one item of Minor Magicka and be done with it. I also can't claim my tests be entirely accurate to base something on them. It might be a mess to play Mason's build as an Altmer 

• Alastor

  

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  June 3, 2014

  I don't even care about the effect it has on concentration spells, I just wanna know why it happens!!??! This is some pretty cool research you guys have here :)

  I don't even care about the effect it has on concentration spells, I just wanna know why it happens!!??! This is some pretty cool research you guys have here :)
• James

  

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  June 3, 2014

  Well, I just broke the game!

  I spoke to Teccam about this concept last week and mentioned that I may be able to break this game's mechanics if it works the way I think it does, needless to say it does and I have.  I'm not going to go into too many details until I can figure out exactly what is going on but I will leave a bit of a teaser...

  ...You guys have yet to see the true glory of this glitch!

  Well, I just broke the game!

  I spoke to Teccam about this concept last week and mentioned that I may be able to break this game's mechanics if it works the way I think it does, needless to say it does and I have.  I'm not going to go into too many details until I can figure out exactly what is going on but I will leave a bit of a teaser...

  ...You guys have yet to see the true glory of this glitch!

• Teccam

  

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  June 3, 2014

  So Philter --> Draught --> Philter --> Ring of the Erudite should work then? If so, talk about OP.

  So Philter --> Draught --> Philter --> Ring of the Erudite should work then? If so, talk about OP.

• Alastor

  

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  June 3, 2014

  Dang it James! Quit breaking the game!

  Dang it James! Quit breaking the game!