Yeah, all of that is true. I cannot dispute a single point there Curse, and neither do I wish too.
Actually it raises two subjects to discuss. Is the issue really about criticism and an individual's ability to process it? Or does it boil down to a desire for social acceptance?
For the former I think you have expressed it perfectly. Added with the point that many people do take the time to give feedback and constructive help. One can only control their own actions, not the actions of others. Those of you who do take that time to be helpful are doing as much or more than is reasonably required. Nothing more can or should be asked of you.
That said, if the issue is one of social acceptance and an individual's need for it, then I think it subtly shifts the dynamic.
As you point out the road to success is a painful one. The lessons learned along the way can leave scars, yet the healing process once concluded leaves us all the wiser for the experience. Your builds are the pedestal up in which you stand. They are your Gift-Limbs to the site, your Aedra. Each is an emotion and a spirit. Hopefully every one was added out of a desire to share your inspirations and to inspire others.
They are also your strength. Of the many things you can do well, it may be a safe assumption that building is an area in which you excel. People will naturally want to emulate you in the need for social acceptance, to try and follow in your footsteps (by you I now mean all the great builders) and by doing so gain respect and become a member of the community.
So those who fail, or feel they have failed, it could be a crushing blow. They may see it as not just a failure at building but also an inability to achieve that which they want most. The fact they perceive Character Building as the only means to achieve this could indicate where an issue lies.
From personal experience I know I got extremely lucky. My first build I was proud of but it was still a wreck. Yet by the time of my second or third build I had already made friends. It would have amounted to nothing without support from Vazgen and Mason and many more. I had already been accepted socially, the need to prove anything was gone. I created purely for the joy and the desire to share that joy. Now I am secure in the knowledge that if I post a WiP, my friends will have my back and help and support me. It becomes less a build and more a social experience.
A new builder may not have my luck. They may wish to have that closeness with others they see we have, but not know how to do it. Building may not be their strength, yet they still perceive it to be the only way of attaining that acceptance.
When we look at constructive criticism from that angle, aren't the stakes now so much higher?
Yeah, all of that is true. I cannot dispute a single point there Curse, and neither do I wish too.
Actually it raises two subjects to discuss. Is the issue really about criticism and an individual's ability to process it? Or does it boil down to a desire for social acceptance?
For the former I think you have expressed it perfectly. Added with the point that many people do take the time to give feedback and constructive help. One can only control their own actions, not the actions of others. Those of you who do take that time to be helpful are doing as much or more than is reasonably required. Nothing more can or should be asked of you.
That said, if the issue is one of social acceptance and an individual's need for it, then I think it subtly shifts the dynamic.
As you point out the road to success is a painful one. The lessons learned along the way can leave scars, yet the healing process once concluded leaves us all the wiser for the experience. Your builds are the pedestal up in which you stand. They are your Gift-Limbs to the site, your Aedra. Each is an emotion and a spirit. Hopefully every one was added out of a desire to share your inspirations and to inspire others.
They are also your strength. Of the many things you can do well, it may be a safe assumption that building is an area in which you excel. People will naturally want to emulate you in the need for social acceptance, to try and follow in your footsteps (by you I now mean all the great builders) and by doing so gain respect and become a member of the community.
So those who fail, or feel they have failed, it could be a crushing blow. They may see it as not just a failure at building but also an inability to achieve that which they want most. The fact they perceive Character Building as the only means to achieve this could indicate where an issue lies.
From personal experience I know I got extremely lucky. My first build I was proud of but it was still a wreck. Yet by the time of my second or third build I had already made friends. It would have amounted to nothing without support from Vazgen and Mason and many more. I had already been accepted socially, the need to prove anything was gone. I created purely for the joy and the desire to share that joy. Now I am secure in the knowledge that if I post a WiP, my friends will have my back and help and support me. It becomes less a build and more a social experience.
A new builder may not have my luck. They may wish to have that closeness with others they see we have, but not know how to do it. Building may not be their strength, yet they still perceive it to be the only way of attaining that acceptance.
When we look at constructive criticism from that angle, aren't the stakes now so much higher?
I agree. Though I hate saying it's the only passable one, it really is. Kojo definitely did the best out of all of them at taking the advice given to him, and I think that's probably why his is so much better. I knew when I read that one, it'd most likely be the one to get my vote before I even read the 3 after.
I agree. Though I hate saying it's the only passable one, it really is. Kojo definitely did the best out of all of them at taking the advice given to him, and I think that's probably why his is so much better. I knew when I read that one, it'd most likely be the one to get my vote before I even read the 3 after.
So, just wondering, are Deathmatches for potentially any build at all in the Bloodworks or only the ones in there that are deemed bad enough that it's necessary for them to put in a Deathmatch? Like, could a very well done build be placed in a Deathmatch for simply not having 20 or more likes?
So, just wondering, are Deathmatches for potentially any build at all in the Bloodworks or only the ones in there that are deemed bad enough that it's necessary for them to put in a Deathmatch? Like, could a very well done build be placed in a Deathmatch for simply not having 20 or more likes?
Any build that has been out for 3 months (I may be wrong on that time frame) that has less then twenty likes is eligible for a Deathmatch. Of course if the build is good enough then even if it was still in the bloodworks after that amount of time, for whatever reason, it would easily get the likes to survive.
Basically this also serves as a way to bring attention to builds most would otherwise never look at, in favour of a higher ranked build.
Any build that has been out for 3 months (I may be wrong on that time frame) that has less then twenty likes is eligible for a Deathmatch. Of course if the build is good enough then even if it was still in the bloodworks after that amount of time, for whatever reason, it would easily get the likes to survive.
Basically this also serves as a way to bring attention to builds most would otherwise never look at, in favour of a higher ranked build.
Ha, well I'm so sure it is "deep" exactly but I hear you. When I look at how fraught the whole thing can be at times, the only conclusion I can come to as to why it hurts people is because they feel personally rejected.
I must believe that, Curse. I have to. The only other alternative is that it simply boils down to pride and butthurt ego. And that I cannot accept and remain vaguely sane.
Ha, well I'm so sure it is "deep" exactly but I hear you. When I look at how fraught the whole thing can be at times, the only conclusion I can come to as to why it hurts people is because they feel personally rejected.
I must believe that, Curse. I have to. The only other alternative is that it simply boils down to pride and butthurt ego. And that I cannot accept and remain vaguely sane.