Karver the Afflicted said:
First is that you basicaly stuff a lesser daedric spirit into the body. Second is resurrecting recently deceased, which traps some of the soul residue inside. Resurrecting body with whole soul takes enormous amount of power. So resurrection doesn´t need a Soul Gem, though it certainly sounds like interesting thing.
Okay, this explains everything, so the soul is either replaced by a lesser daedric or the remaining soul is 're-used'. Got it.
Karver the Afflicted said:
Very recently I asked Phil for what else could Souls be used beside Enchanting. Could you use them to restore your magicka? Or maybe stuff them into a body and raise it?
I found the thought pretty cool of soul-trapping a dying follower and then putting them back into a stronger body through a soul gem.
Karver the Afflicted said:
Second: Sending souls to Sithis is propaganda, just fanatical believe. Sithis isn´t exactly a sentient being or such. And especially killing in someone´s name doesn´t mean they´ll get the souls. Take Soul Cairn for example. The souls there were trapped into Black Soul Gems and then sacrificed to Ideal Masters in exchange for...power? Necromancy?. Big emphasis on "sacrificed", as well as Mannimarco was sacrificing hundreds of Souls through Black Soul Gems to Molag Bal during Planemeld.
Ah,yes, souls need to be sacrificed to the Ideal Masters to get to the Soul Cairn, that's the point I missed.
But Sithis is referred to as a deity or am I mistaken? I thought about this because my current character is a DB assassin and she has a bow enchanted with soul trap called 'Void Maker' and I don't want to piss off Sithis because he doesn't get the souls he demanded :P
Karver the Afflicted said:
Third: Tricky one. I think they do, but it is similar to how it works with werewolves. Lycanthropy is a disease coming from Hircine and when you die, your soul goes to Hunting Grounds. When you die as a vampire you go to Coldharbour - which implies that there has to be something to go there, right?
This makes sense. I reckon then that they have a soul.
Veloth the Ashkaari said:
If vampires do have a soul then it must be different from a normal human one. When you go to the Soul Cairn in Dawnguard you need to be soul trapped otherwise it will eat your soul but if you are a vampire you don't have that problem. Maybe if you are a vampire Bal has such a strong claim in your soul even the Cairn can't take it.
Vampires are undead so their soul must be indeed different from a living human soul. This is a good explanation.
Edit: Ooops I repeated what Karver said about undead souls
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/KarverTheLorc]Karver the Afflicted[/url] said:[/b]
First is that you basicaly stuff a lesser daedric spirit into the body. Second is resurrecting recently deceased, which traps some of the soul residue inside. Resurrecting body with whole soul takes enormous amount of power. So resurrection doesn´t need a Soul Gem, though it certainly sounds like interesting thing.
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Okay, this explains everything, so the soul is either replaced by a lesser daedric or the remaining soul is 're-used'. Got it.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/KarverTheLorc]Karver the Afflicted[/url] said:[/b]
Very recently I asked Phil for what else could Souls be used beside Enchanting. Could you use them to restore your magicka? Or maybe stuff them into a body and raise it?
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I found the thought pretty cool of soul-trapping a dying follower and then putting them back into a stronger body through a soul gem.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/KarverTheLorc]Karver the Afflicted[/url] said:[/b]
Second: Sending souls to Sithis is propaganda, just fanatical believe. Sithis isn´t exactly a sentient being or such. And especially killing in someone´s name doesn´t mean they´ll get the souls. Take Soul Cairn for example. The souls there were trapped into Black Soul Gems and then sacrificed to Ideal Masters in exchange for...power? Necromancy?. Big emphasis on "sacrificed", as well as Mannimarco was sacrificing hundreds of Souls through Black Soul Gems to Molag Bal during Planemeld.
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Ah,yes, souls need to be sacrificed to the Ideal Masters to get to the Soul Cairn, that's the point I missed.
But Sithis is referred to as a deity or am I mistaken? I thought about this because my current character is a DB assassin and she has a bow enchanted with soul trap called 'Void Maker' and I don't want to piss off Sithis because he doesn't get the souls he demanded :P
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/KarverTheLorc]Karver the Afflicted[/url] said:[/b]
Third: Tricky one. I think they do, but it is similar to how it works with werewolves. Lycanthropy is a disease coming from Hircine and when you die, your soul goes to Hunting Grounds. When you die as a vampire you go to Coldharbour - which implies that there has to be something to go there, right?
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This makes sense. I reckon then that they have a soul.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/VelothTheProphet]Veloth the Ashkaari[/url] said:[/b]
If vampires do have a soul then it must be different from a normal human one. When you go to the Soul Cairn in Dawnguard you need to be soul trapped otherwise it will eat your soul but if you are a vampire you don't have that problem. Maybe if you are a vampire Bal has such a strong claim in your soul even the Cairn can't take it.
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Vampires are undead so their soul must be indeed different from a living human soul. This is a good explanation.
Edit: Ooops I repeated what Karver said about undead souls
