[blockquote][b][url=/profile/ErikUlfrblod]Nameless King[/url] said:[/b]

What would happen to a follower of Hircine if they don't become a Werewolf or any Werebeast? I am curious because it seems most followers of him become Werewolves/beast, and I was wondering what would happen if a hunter is a devote follower of him, but never becomes a Werewolf/beast.

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In Oblivion the followers at the Hircine shrine weren't werewolves (at least I don't think so). Even if they aren't I highly doubt Hircine wouldn't have non-beast followers. Lycanthropy seems like more of a reward that Hircine would give to his most loyal followers or a curse for those who anger him.

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[blockquote][b][url=/profile/ErikUlfrblod]Nameless King[/url] said:[/b]

What would happen to a follower of Hircine if they don't become a Werewolf or any Werebeast? I am curious because it seems most followers of him become Werewolves/beast, and I was wondering what would happen if a hunter is a devote follower of him, but never becomes a Werewolf/beast.

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In Oblivion the followers at the Hircine shrine weren't werewolves (at least I don't think so). Even if they aren't I highly doubt Hircine wouldn't have non-beast followers. Lycanthropy seems like more of a reward that Hircine would give to his most loyal followers or a curse for those who anger him.

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Ahh, so more or less you end up becoming a werewolf regardless. Well, that ruins my idea.

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/ErikUlfrblod]Nameless King[/url] said:[/b]

Ahh, so more or less you end up becoming a werewolf regardless. Well, that ruins my idea.

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I said "it seems". That last statement doesn't have any evidence to back it up. It may also just be a choice for any follower to take or not, or it may depend on the actual skill at hunting of the follower; a weaker hunter will get werewolf form to help with their hunt, whereas the stronger hunters don't need a transformation to please their Lord.

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[blockquote][b][url=/profile/ErikUlfrblod]Nameless King[/url] said:[/b]

Ahh, so more or less you end up becoming a werewolf regardless. Well, that ruins my idea.

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I said "it seems". That last statement doesn't have any evidence to back it up. It may also just be a choice for any follower to take or not, or it may depend on the actual skill at hunting of the follower; a weaker hunter will get werewolf form to help with their hunt, whereas the stronger hunters don't need a transformation to please their Lord.

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Yeah, misread that so that is my fault. Again, thanks for the help and that is kind of what I was thinking a weak hunter takes his gift to help them while a strong hunter doesn't.

As Ebonslayer suggest I doubt that all of Hircine's followers end up as werebeasts. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Hircine respects the human hunters capable of withstanding or outhunting his hounds a whole lot more.

I've always got the idea that the hunting grounds are simply a constant game of hunters and prey; who is who depends on the moment and the skill of each side. One moment a man can be a prey hunted by beasts, the other he is the one tending them a trap and inverting the game. If anything this mentality seems to be supported by Hircine's appearance in Skyrim and the fact you can't fail to do his bidding in that quest no matter what you do. I don't think being a werewolf or not changes a whole lot in his eyes except for the fact that your soul will simply not be guaranteed to be joining the Hunting grounds.

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Teineeva]Teineeva[/url] said:[/b]

As Ebonslayer suggest I doubt that all of Hircine's followers end up as werebeasts. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Hircine respects the human hunters capable of withstanding or outhunting his hounds a whole lot more.

I've always got the idea that the hunting grounds are simply a constant game of hunters and prey; who is who depends on the moment and the skill of each side. One moment a man can be a prey hunted by beasts, the other he is the one tending them a trap and inverting the game. If anything this mentality seems to be supported by Hircine's appearance in Skyrim and the fact you can't fail to do his bidding in that quest no matter what you do. I don't think being a werewolf or not changes a whole lot in his eyes except for the fact that your soul will simply not be guaranteed to be joining the Hunting grounds.

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Alright thanks, and that is close to the same idea I had about the Hunting Grounds if you are a great hunter.

Is anyone familiar with the etymology of "Markarth" and "Karthwasten"? I don't know if there are any other karths, but I'm kinda curious what one is. 

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Legion]Legion[/url] said:[/b]

Is anyone familiar with the etymology of "Markarth" and "Karthwasten"? I don't know if there are any other karths, but I'm kinda curious what one is. 

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So through a lot of digging and I mean a lot, that I won't explain because it hard to understand, I found that Karth or -karth means valley. So Karth River means valley river, Markarth means Market Valley, because the Mar part comes from an Old Norse word for market, Karthspire mean Valley Temple, and Karthwasten would mean Valley Washed or Washed Valley, wasten is close to the Dutch word for washing. So there you go.

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/ErikUlfrblod]Nameless King[/url] said:[/b]

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Legion]Legion[/url] said:[/b]

Is anyone familiar with the etymology of "Markarth" and "Karthwasten"? I don't know if there are any other karths, but I'm kinda curious what one is. 

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So through a lot of digging and I mean a lot, that I won't explain because it hard to understand, I found that Karth or -karth means valley. So Karth River means valley river, Markarth means Market Valley, because the Mar part comes from an Old Norse word for market, Karthspire mean Valley Temple, and Karthwasten would mean Valley Washed or Washed Valley, wasten is close to the Dutch word for washing. So there you go.

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Duuuuude, you rock! That is awesome, thank you for doing that. That makes a lot of sense. The Reach is like 50% valley.

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/ErikUlfrblod]Nameless King[/url] said:[/b]

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Legion]Legion[/url] said:[/b]

Is anyone familiar with the etymology of "Markarth" and "Karthwasten"? I don't know if there are any other karths, but I'm kinda curious what one is. 

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So through a lot of digging and I mean a lot, that I won't explain because it hard to understand, I found that Karth or -karth means valley. So Karth River means valley river, Markarth means Market Valley, because the Mar part comes from an Old Norse word for market, Karthspire mean Valley Temple, and Karthwasten would mean Valley Washed or Washed Valley, wasten is close to the Dutch word for washing. So there you go.

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Nice one Davey :)