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  • January 8, 2016

    The truth about these races is between, the truth about the gods is beyond.

  • Member
    January 8, 2016
    They will share him. :P
  • January 8, 2016

    Because the gods aren't mortals)

    Anything to remain popular... sounds almost like the Thalmor)))

    Do you know any case in history when a king executed his general for being popular with his soldiers? For being a good general? Even if there is such a case, it must be a really sick king. Really, what is this, a reality-show? Lol))

  • January 8, 2016

    Trinimac was installed as the official religion of Wrothgar during Kurog's founding of Orsinium in the 2 Era, only Orcs who live in strongholds outside the homeland still worship Malacath and this was still the case as of the end of the 3rd Era and we have not seen the place since then.

  • January 8, 2016

    So basically every Orsinium worshipped Trinimac? Nah, I don´t think so. The lore portrays the Gortwog´s Orsinium and it´s Trinimac worship as something...scandalous. It greated a schism between Orsinium Orcs and Stronghold Orcs, but also between Orcs in that Orsinium. There were many that disagreed with that decision. 

  • January 8, 2016

    Well they definitely did in the 2 and 3 Era 

  • Tom
    January 9, 2016

    Curiouser and curiouser, I present to everyone this but from Shor, son of Shor.

    During the wars between Shor and Auriel, Shor and his followers leave the battlefield and are talking on the THroat of the World, here's the relevant part to this discussion:

    "... "Our chieftain loses heart," Dibella said, Bed-Wife of Shor, hefting another body onto the corpse pile some of us were making, "And so goes to the speak to one that has none anymore. Mirrors, indeed, and in that I see no logic."

    "Tsun took her by the hair, for he was angered by her words and heavy with lust. He was a berserker despite his high station, and love followed battle to his kind. "You weren't made for that kind of thinking," Stuhn said, dragging Dibella towards a whaleskin tent, "Jhunal was. And no one should be speaking to him now." Tsun eyed the Clever Man who had heard him. "Logic is dangerous in these days, in this place. To live in Skyrim is to change your mind ten times a day lest it freeze to death. And we can have none of that now."

    Shor and Auriel both see their fathers, who are themselves and say the exact same things about the other and their father's, but completely opposite to themselves. We then return to the camp of Shor;

    "...Trinimac left Dibella in his tent as we assembled, and he had not touched her, frozen in the manner of the Nords when we are unsure of our true place, and asked his brother to rearm him. Stuhn was confused for a moment, thinking this an odd shift,.."

  • Member
    January 9, 2016

    The implication is that Trinimac is the elven counterpart to Tsun, Stuhn and Arkay = TRInimac. It breaks down as follows:

    It's convoluted as fuck but Tu'whacca, Arkay, Xarxes asserts that Arkay is a fusion of Xarxes and Orkey.

    In turn "Orkey combines aspects of Mauloch and Arkay" (varieties of faith)

    We know that Mauloch and Malakath are likely the same oversoul.

    We know the connection between Malacath and Trinimac.

    Shor, Son of Shor says that Tsun and Stuhn shift with each other and Trinimac as you point out. See it is Tsun grabbing Dibella's hair yet an instant later it is Stuhn dragging her to a tent, then later it is Trinimac leaving the tent.

    So Trinimac = Stuhn, Tsun and Arkay.

  • Member
    January 9, 2016

    See if you can remember that link Lis. I recall something similar about how the transformation of Trinimac is an allegory for a betrayal started by Auriel as his enantiomorphic event. He used trinimac in order to recreate that story and ascended to godhood on the back of it.

    It's speculation but it's good speculation iirc.

    Auri-El is a fascinating god to me. All zen in Dawnguard, but blah, so bloody and terrible with grudges.

    He's an unforgiving prick isn't he?

  • Member
    January 9, 2016

    Amuses me everyday to no end that we're having these deep discussions about things that don't exist. 

    It amuses me and saddens me that people in our world have deep discussions over religious beliefs who's gods don't exist.