Fallout Boy said: Tysoyaha I feel you made a rather disingenuous statement when you claimed those worth a reputation for quality builds are coasting by on their reputation. If someone such as Lissette has such high name recognition it is only because they earn it and continue to prove they are worthy of such recognition. To raise people who haven’t earned that reputation to the same level as those who have is exactly the kind of thing that is slowly killing the group.
Hmm...I was worried that someone would misunderstand that, I probably worded it strangely. What I meant was that I don't think we need competition to encourage higher quality builds because if you really think someone like Liz only puts in her maximum effort to win contests, then it's no longer very good motivation for her because she could coast on her reputation and win contests without much effort just because people are more likely to read her builds than some unknown newbie.
Of coarse, the entire point of saying that if competition was all that encouraged quality then it wouldn't anymore because they could just rely on reputation now was because I don't believe it ever did. I think we can all tell that Liz puts maximum effort into all her builds, contest or not, because she has a passion for making interesting, thoughtful and high quality builds. Competition wouldn't affect the quality of her work because it's already always top notch.
That being said, there people on here who have great reputations have them for two reasons: 1) they earned it through talent, hard work and dedication, and 2) they've had plenty of time and exposure to be able to put in that hard work and develop that reputation. A lot of new builders on here have plenty of talent and are willing to put in the work, but haven't yet gotten much time or exposure to develop a name for themselves.
I don't think it invalidates the OG users hard work to say that those newbies deserve the chance to hone their craft and get their name out there. I'm not saying to coddle people and reward low effort builds...but how are new users going to progress and learn if their builds keep getting deleted because people are more likely to read, let alone vote for, a build with a better known name attached to it?
Hell, it might be fun to have a blind contest or two for that very reason. Have a bunch of builds with no users name on them somehow and vote for the best one based on content alone. Frankly, the people with the best reps would likely still win because they've had the most practice, but it would ask be fun! Lol. Which is kind of my point, I definitely think we could use more competition but because it would be fun. The minute we start doing things because we think it'll enforce quality then it won't be fun anymore and people will lose the passion that makes them want to put effort into making quality content.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/EdgarJP]Fallout Boy[/url] said:[/b] Tysoyaha I feel you made a rather disingenuous statement when you claimed those worth a reputation for quality builds are coasting by on their reputation. If someone such as Lissette has such high name recognition it is only because they earn it and continue to prove they are worthy of such recognition. To raise people who haven’t earned that reputation to the same level as those who have is exactly the kind of thing that is slowly killing the group.[/blockquote]
Hmm...I was worried that someone would misunderstand that, I probably worded it strangely. What I meant was that I don't think we need competition to encourage higher quality builds because if you really think someone like Liz only puts in her maximum effort to win contests, then it's no longer very good motivation for her because she could coast on her reputation and win contests without much effort just because people are more likely to read her builds than some unknown newbie.
Of coarse, the entire point of saying that if competition was all that encouraged quality then it wouldn't anymore because they could just rely on reputation now was because I don't believe it ever did. I think we can all tell that Liz puts maximum effort into all her builds, contest or not, because she has a passion for making interesting, thoughtful and high quality builds. Competition wouldn't affect the quality of her work because it's already always top notch.
That being said, there people on here who have great reputations have them for two reasons: 1) they earned it through talent, hard work and dedication, and 2) they've had plenty of time and exposure to be able to put in that hard work and develop that reputation. A lot of new builders on here have plenty of talent and are willing to put in the work, but haven't yet gotten much time or exposure to develop a name for themselves.
I don't think it invalidates the OG users hard work to say that those newbies deserve the chance to hone their craft and get their name out there. I'm not saying to coddle people and reward low effort builds...but how are new users going to progress and learn if their builds keep getting deleted because people are more likely to read, let alone vote for, a build with a better known name attached to it?
Hell, it might be fun to have a blind contest or two for that very reason. Have a bunch of builds with no users name on them somehow and vote for the best one based on content alone. Frankly, the people with the best reps would likely still win because they've had the most practice, but it would ask be fun! Lol. Which is kind of my point, I definitely think we could use more competition but because it would be fun. The minute we start doing things because we think it'll enforce quality then it won't be fun anymore and people will lose the passion that makes them want to put effort into making quality content.
