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Least Favourite God In Elder Scrolls

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    October 8, 2015 4:37 AM EDT

    Hircine because he makes you hunt forever. Imagine all the horrible things you'll see during an eternity.

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    October 8, 2015 4:42 AM EDT

    Uniting people under one banner is the same goal as every tinpot dictator in history. 

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    October 8, 2015 4:44 AM EDT

    I'm not a fan of fox hunting - or any blood sport for that matter - so Hircine is good contender for least favourite deity in that respect. Yet he also represents the natural order to some extent and nature is raw in tooth and claw. Plus he does give his prey a chance to survive...

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    October 8, 2015 4:53 AM EDT

    The questions remain unanswered. I haven't played any of the games before Morrowind so my knowledge breaks down at that point, but I've yet to see a source beyond the PGE's vague hints which convey the brutality of his conquest of the Altmer lands.

    Don't quote me MK's Conquest of Alinor snippet either  One hour and timey whimey. I have yet to make complete sense of it all - perhaps you'll be able to enlighten me?

    Also there is the metaphysical importance of Talos' conquest. It could be said he, like Vivec, knew the false nature of Mundus but loved it's people. Are Vivec and Talos really so different from one another that you like one but detest the other?

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    October 8, 2015 4:54 AM EDT

    I understand that nature is all about tooth and claw and prey, but I do not like the fact that after death people who is inflicted with lycanthrophy is sent to the Hunting Grounds to hunt for an eternity. Unless your Sotek you'll probobly not enjoy hunting forever.  

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    October 8, 2015 5:15 AM EDT

    It depends on how far consumed one is by their lycanthropy. A man like Kodlak would hate it, but Sinding has shown that a man with lesser willpower will be dominated by the wild instincts of the werewolf - perhaps to the point where they hunt not for enjoyment, but simply in compliance with newfound natural behaviour. Hircine transforms men into beasts, and beasts are not creatures of morality.

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    October 8, 2015 5:22 AM EDT

    I'm gonna have to bring in the obligatory nazi reference, there would have been peace under Hitler's rule but that still doesn't excuse all the things he would have done to achieve it. I'm Scottish man, I'm never going to agree with imperialism .

    I have no real insight on the Siege of Alinor other than the Numidium sealed it'self outside of time where the Altmer still fight it and the breaking the Passispoint I would presume is Zero Summing but I'm not sure what the chrysalis is in reference to.

    Vivec used trickery to become ruler of Morrowind sure, but at least he didn't use that power to conquer the world. Talos thought he was hotshit by becoming a god but he just ripped it off from Vivec and Auri-El before him, at least those dudes had the decency to try and teach others how to follow in there footsteps.

    Btw have I told you before that you should read Malazan Books of the Fallen? You really should read Malazan Books of the Fallen Phil 

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    October 8, 2015 5:27 AM EDT

    Well now i'm never going to play a werewolf in Skyrim again, with that knowledge.

    Sorry Sotek!

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    October 8, 2015 5:27 AM EDT

    Well the "good" thing about Hircine is his enjoyment of the hunter becoming the hunted, so he's just a fan of the fox turning on the hound.

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    October 8, 2015 5:28 AM EDT

    No Gods or Kings, Only Man 

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    October 8, 2015 5:40 AM EDT

    Maybe a question for lore people, but what happens if one dies in the Hunting Grounds?

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    October 8, 2015 6:02 AM EDT

    "Is a mer not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Cyrodiil, 'it belongs to Tiber Septim.' 'No!' says the mer in Alinor, 'it belongs to us.' 'No!' says the mer in Valenwood, 'it belongs to the earth.' I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Resdaynia. A land where the artist would not fear the censor; where the mage would not be bound by petty morality; where the great would not be constrained by the small! And with the sweat of your brow, Resdaynia can become your land as well." - Veloth Rand 

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    October 8, 2015 6:40 AM EDT

    It does not excuse them in your morality.

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    October 8, 2015 6:42 AM EDT

    Well, a king is a man, no? Unless he's the Lizard King

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    October 8, 2015 6:59 AM EDT

    Ah the Tyrant Lizard King, only matched in his majesty by the punyness of his arms 

  • October 8, 2015 7:31 AM EDT

    Answer to both questions: Boethiah.

    Because she is my lord's archenemy.

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    October 8, 2015 9:17 AM EDT

    I suppose Hircine and his hunters feast on your soul if you were the prey, f you are the hunter I guess you'll just get back at some point, you are supposedly hunting for all eternity.

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    October 8, 2015 9:29 AM EDT

    Nah that's not sporting. There is no death in the Hunting Ground, just the chase. You are the prey until you become the predator.  

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    October 8, 2015 12:42 PM EDT

    I'd say it was a necessary act and long overdue, the end justifies the means. Mundus needed a new Lorkhan and Talos knew what he was doing. To do what Talos did is what Lorkhan intended back during Convention. Nobody ever said it was a nice thing to do. I tend to reject the Hitler analogy though. More like ancient Rome and Caesar.

    Yeah the Numidium thing. It's that whole Middle Dawn thing again. Some incredibly powerful elven wizards knew what was going on but to most the siege of Alinor only lasted 1 hour. so PGE's oft-quoted statement that:

    The conquest and assimilation of Summerset into the Empire is remembered by many a living Altmer with horror only partially diminished by time. Certainly, the pride of the people has never recovered.

    Could actually be less about the violence than about national pride and Altmer superiority being demonstrated as false? What I'm saying is that we all readily accept the myths of Alessia and Reman, that the propaganda saying otherwise about their lives is wrong, but we are quick to believe any little bad thing we hear about Talos

    Vivec so would have done the same if he didn't have his own problems. In fact, he even seems to be mentoring Talos in the Sermons. 

    I have not read those books. I tale it they're good?

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    October 8, 2015 1:09 PM EDT

    Malazan books of the Fallen is fantastic and anybody that likes Elder Scrolls lore will like it.

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    October 8, 2015 1:24 PM EDT

    I second this. Malazan Book of Fallen is the best epic fantasy. The magic, characters, gods and ascendants...Man, I´ll have to read it again 

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    October 8, 2015 1:24 PM EDT

    He achieved what Solaire could not, becoming the Sun

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    October 8, 2015 1:32 PM EDT

    There is another user I've seen around that has an Anomander Rake avatar 

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    October 8, 2015 9:41 PM EDT
    All of the morally self-righteous ones. "Walk always in the light, or we will drag you into it."
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    October 8, 2015 9:45 PM EDT
    Yeah, and I've always thought that the shrines could simply be items that were enchanted by priests to support the aedra's claims to divinity. Made a couple atheist playthroughs out of that.