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Character Build: The Necromancer Adept

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• Warlocksg

  

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  March 10, 2013

  Ok, to answer both Vazgen and Phil, it's very simple. Although I understand that it is an occupational hazard for a Achemist, the thing is I have played this build in such a way that it's not a pure alchemist build... it's a hybrid, that relies getting poisons in quick before switching to mid range for spell casting. 

  Here are the stuff in my Fav's Menu:

  Ebony waraxe, Poison of Weakness to Poison, Lingeing Damage Poison, Poison of weakness to Magic, Equilibrium, Close wounds, Vampiric Drain, Ebonyflesh, Frostbite, Ice Spike, Poison Rune, Conjure Wrathman, Summon Arniel's Shade.

  With all these spells, here are my kebinds:

  1. Waraxe
  2. Miraak's Staff
  3. Ice Spike
  4. Poison Rune
  5. Vampiric Drain
  6. Summon Wrathman
  7. Frostbite
  8. Close wounds

  This leaves all the poisons, Summon Arniel's shade and Equilibrium unaccounted for. I usuall switch pre-apply the poison of choice before any combat (Usually poison of weakness to poisons) and use poison rune for vanilla mobs.

  For Expansion Mobs, it's usually 2 strikes with pre-poisons and then apply lingering damage soon after before switching to mid range combat.

  Your comments however, have made me think... I will look into the possibility of using dual weapons for pre-combat application. This will being the amount of switching needed to a minimal. This will leave weakness to magic poison only for this targets that need some extra push from my low level basic destruction spells.

  Thanks.

  Ok, to answer both Vazgen and Phil, it's very simple. Although I understand that it is an occupational hazard for a Achemist, the thing is I have played this build in such a way that it's not a pure alchemist build... it's a hybrid, that relies getting poisons in quick before switching to mid range for spell casting. 

  Here are the stuff in my Fav's Menu:

  Ebony waraxe, Poison of Weakness to Poison, Lingeing Damage Poison, Poison of weakness to Magic, Equilibrium, Close wounds, Vampiric Drain, Ebonyflesh, Frostbite, Ice Spike, Poison Rune, Conjure Wrathman, Summon Arniel's Shade.

  With all these spells, here are my kebinds:

  1. Waraxe
  2. Miraak's Staff
  3. Ice Spike
  4. Poison Rune
  5. Vampiric Drain
  6. Summon Wrathman
  7. Frostbite
  8. Close wounds

  This leaves all the poisons, Summon Arniel's shade and Equilibrium unaccounted for. I usuall switch pre-apply the poison of choice before any combat (Usually poison of weakness to poisons) and use poison rune for vanilla mobs.

  For Expansion Mobs, it's usually 2 strikes with pre-poisons and then apply lingering damage soon after before switching to mid range combat.

  Your comments however, have made me think... I will look into the possibility of using dual weapons for pre-combat application. This will being the amount of switching needed to a minimal. This will leave weakness to magic poison only for this targets that need some extra push from my low level basic destruction spells.

  Thanks.

• Adrik

  

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  March 10, 2013

  Really solid good Necro build, I very much enjoyed it +1

  Really solid good Necro build, I very much enjoyed it +1

• Warlocksg

  

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  March 11, 2013

  Hey Guys,

  OK, so I was looking into options for using dual weapons in this build to ensure a faster ramp up time on poisons inflicted and as a result, I landed with a "roguish" kind of set up, something like a "Preparation" phase, in which setting up of poisons or pre-poisoning weapons before usage. 

  Since they need to be manually selected, it would make sense that, since I am breaking the game for selection, might as well make use of this opportunity to down a few beneficial potions. The end result is something like this:

  Preparation (Just after fights):

  Ebony Axe (Firey Soul Enchant) - Lingering Poison Damage
  Ebony Dagger (Absorb Stamina Enchant) - Poison of Weakness to Poison / Poison of Weakness to Magic (Depending on the Fight)

  Keybinds:

  1. Miraak's staff
  2. Frostbite
  3. Ice Spike
  4. Poison Rune
  5. Vampiric Drain
  6. Summon Wrathman
  7. Equilibrium
  8. Close wounds

  Fight Sequence:
  
  Start off with long range damage  Chillblains (Ice spike + poison Rune), switch to summons as they get nearer (like about midway) and engage fav tab to dagger (Left hand) and War Axe (Right hand). In this time, down a potion of fortify Destruction and any other potion buff of desire (You probably gonna need resist fire, since you're a vamp) and switch back to combat and Perform a dual flurry attack.

  Switch to Well of Darkness (Staff + Poison Rune) and Unholy feast (Vampiric Drain + Frost bite + Marked for death) to finish off at mid range. If target is still not dead then step back, use blood is power and resume combo again.

  If target us undead or not affected by poison, go directly to unholy feast. Once target(s) are down, perform Preparation in anticipation of next target.

  I guess the mentality you have to adopt for this playstyle is more if like the Witcher 2 "pre-pot" mentality or the WoW Rouge Arena/bg "Preperation" mentality and accounts for only 1 interruption on the playstyle, as compared to 2 brings the total swings down from 6 axes swings to 4, leaving enough room for spell attacks.

  Let me know what you guys think about this. If ok, I will modify the combat and potions sections to reflect this.

  Hey Guys,

  OK, so I was looking into options for using dual weapons in this build to ensure a faster ramp up time on poisons inflicted and as a result, I landed with a "roguish" kind of set up, something like a "Preparation" phase, in which setting up of poisons or pre-poisoning weapons before usage. 

  Since they need to be manually selected, it would make sense that, since I am breaking the game for selection, might as well make use of this opportunity to down a few beneficial potions. The end result is something like this:

  Preparation (Just after fights):

  Ebony Axe (Firey Soul Enchant) - Lingering Poison Damage
  Ebony Dagger (Absorb Stamina Enchant) - Poison of Weakness to Poison / Poison of Weakness to Magic (Depending on the Fight)

  Keybinds:

  1. Miraak's staff
  2. Frostbite
  3. Ice Spike
  4. Poison Rune
  5. Vampiric Drain
  6. Summon Wrathman
  7. Equilibrium
  8. Close wounds

  Fight Sequence:
  
  Start off with long range damage  Chillblains (Ice spike + poison Rune), switch to summons as they get nearer (like about midway) and engage fav tab to dagger (Left hand) and War Axe (Right hand). In this time, down a potion of fortify Destruction and any other potion buff of desire (You probably gonna need resist fire, since you're a vamp) and switch back to combat and Perform a dual flurry attack.

  Switch to Well of Darkness (Staff + Poison Rune) and Unholy feast (Vampiric Drain + Frost bite + Marked for death) to finish off at mid range. If target is still not dead then step back, use blood is power and resume combo again.

  If target us undead or not affected by poison, go directly to unholy feast. Once target(s) are down, perform Preparation in anticipation of next target.

  I guess the mentality you have to adopt for this playstyle is more if like the Witcher 2 "pre-pot" mentality or the WoW Rouge Arena/bg "Preperation" mentality and accounts for only 1 interruption on the playstyle, as compared to 2 brings the total swings down from 6 axes swings to 4, leaving enough room for spell attacks.

  Let me know what you guys think about this. If ok, I will modify the combat and potions sections to reflect this.

• Warlocksg

  

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  March 11, 2013

  Thank you :D 

  I must say, I had the most fun with this and my upcoming build, which I will be posting next.

  Thank you :D 

  I must say, I had the most fun with this and my upcoming build, which I will be posting next.

• Vazgen

  

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  March 12, 2013

  It's pretty good 

  I haven't used Miraak's Staff against the undead, but if it staggers them, you can use Well of Darkness against the undead too, just substitute the Poison Rune for Frost Rune. It'll slow them and give you time to finish them with Unholy Feast.

  You can also use Soul Tear shout to start combat against groups. It'll give you an ally in the midst of the group and time to prepare your next moves more easily.

  I would also suggest editing your perk spread picture. There are many perks that are present in calculator but missing on picture and vice versa. 

  It's pretty good 

  I haven't used Miraak's Staff against the undead, but if it staggers them, you can use Well of Darkness against the undead too, just substitute the Poison Rune for Frost Rune. It'll slow them and give you time to finish them with Unholy Feast.

  You can also use Soul Tear shout to start combat against groups. It'll give you an ally in the midst of the group and time to prepare your next moves more easily.

  I would also suggest editing your perk spread picture. There are many perks that are present in calculator but missing on picture and vice versa. 

• Warlocksg

  

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  March 13, 2013

  hey, so I have updated the section to reflect the dual weild and prep phase, plus added some pots. Not adding Soul tear though, cause i would rather stack bleeds via Marked for death. Only makes sense since this build is all about poison and bleeds.

  :D

  hey, so I have updated the section to reflect the dual weild and prep phase, plus added some pots. Not adding Soul tear though, cause i would rather stack bleeds via Marked for death. Only makes sense since this build is all about poison and bleeds.

  :D

• Vazgen

  

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  March 13, 2013

  ok  Two final tips.

  1. Don't use Nightshade and Ectoplasm together because the resulting potion will have a 20% smaller magnitude than a typical custom Fortify Destruction potion (see here: UESP Article on Ectoplasm). I suggest swapping Ectoplasm with Glowing Mushroom or Ash Creep Cluster from Dragonborn DLC both of which are more common.
  2. Good work on perk spread picture. You only forgot to add a few Destruction (Novice-Apprentice, Augmeted Frost 2/2, Rune Master) and Alteration perks (Magic Resistance 3/3). You should also remove Conjuration Dual Casting from picture.

  Hope I'm not being too harsh   Your build is great and very fun to play.

  ok  Two final tips.

  1. Don't use Nightshade and Ectoplasm together because the resulting potion will have a 20% smaller magnitude than a typical custom Fortify Destruction potion (see here: UESP Article on Ectoplasm). I suggest swapping Ectoplasm with Glowing Mushroom or Ash Creep Cluster from Dragonborn DLC both of which are more common.
  2. Good work on perk spread picture. You only forgot to add a few Destruction (Novice-Apprentice, Augmeted Frost 2/2, Rune Master) and Alteration perks (Magic Resistance 3/3). You should also remove Conjuration Dual Casting from picture.

  Hope I'm not being too harsh   Your build is great and very fun to play.

• Andy M

  

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  May 31, 2013

  Hey I think you should update this build to include tags; the other day someone was asking for a good necromancer build and I recommended either this or Henson's The Necromancer, and noticed that your build doesn't turn up in the Character Build Archives because it has no tags. I think that's a shame, seeing how the competition for the best necromancer build on the site is definitely between this and Henson's build.

  Oh and how is it possible that this has only 13 likes?! This is an awesome and different take on the necromancer, and topped up with a nice presentation too Just fix the perk spread picture as Vazgen recommended earlier.

  Hey I think you should update this build to include tags; the other day someone was asking for a good necromancer build and I recommended either this or Henson's The Necromancer, and noticed that your build doesn't turn up in the Character Build Archives because it has no tags. I think that's a shame, seeing how the competition for the best necromancer build on the site is definitely between this and Henson's build.

  Oh and how is it possible that this has only 13 likes?! This is an awesome and different take on the necromancer, and topped up with a nice presentation too Just fix the perk spread picture as Vazgen recommended earlier.

• Warlocksg

  

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  May 31, 2013

  Hi Andy, 

  Thanks for the feedback and pointing this out to me. I have added the tags necessary and am intending to do a touch up of the presentation and include the long overdue video later in the day.

  Thanks. 

  Hi Andy, 

  Thanks for the feedback and pointing this out to me. I have added the tags necessary and am intending to do a touch up of the presentation and include the long overdue video later in the day.

  Thanks. 

• Silver-Strider

  

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  June 27, 2013

  Azhidal's Ring of Necromancy, unfortunately, doesn't work if you have Dark Souls.

  Tried it out with no success.

  Azhidal's Ring of Necromancy, unfortunately, doesn't work if you have Dark Souls.

  Tried it out with no success.