I mean the artwork for Leki has a straight up sun wheel made by a sword. Also the astrological symbol for the earth and the meridian equator.
I'm gonna have to disagree with MK on this one.
I mean the artwork for Leki has a straight up sun wheel made by a sword. Also the astrological symbol for the earth and the meridian equator.
I'm gonna have to disagree with MK on this one.
Nothing solid other than the idea that Tall Papa is Magnus and his daughter is Meridia so then Leki must be her. Also the sword\sun emblem matches with Meridia's relic Dawnbreaker.
Also like I said the solar wheel doesn't just represent the sun but also the earth and the meridian equator, so kind of like the earth and the sun's effects on it. That makes me think of Meridia being the sun's presence on Nirn.
Nothing solid other than the idea that Tall Papa is Magnus and his daughter is Meridia so then Leki must be her. Also the sword\sun emblem matches with Meridia's relic Dawnbreaker.
Also like I said the solar wheel doesn't just represent the sun but also the earth and the meridian equator, so kind of like the earth and the sun's effects on it. That makes me think of Meridia being the sun's presence on Nirn.
Here is a question I just thought of. I'm not sure how much lore there is to go off here but what would a regular Redguard identify as?
I know in the games everybody from Hammerfell just calls each other Redguard but I see that as just a game mechanic so as not to get confusing for the player and since we know that the name "Redguard" is just a mispronunciation of Ra' Gada and doesn't actually encompass everybody from Hammerfell I just don't see them using it amongst themselves.
If you asked someone from Hammerfell what they are do you think they would say Ra' Gadan or Na-Totamban? Or would only the actual warrior and ruling casts use these terms and not their descendants? Would they still just classify themselves as Yokudans? Hammerfellians? Or do you think the games are right and they all just accept the name Redguard now?
Here is a question I just thought of. I'm not sure how much lore there is to go off here but what would a regular Redguard identify as?
I know in the games everybody from Hammerfell just calls each other Redguard but I see that as just a game mechanic so as not to get confusing for the player and since we know that the name "Redguard" is just a mispronunciation of Ra' Gada and doesn't actually encompass everybody from Hammerfell I just don't see them using it amongst themselves.
If you asked someone from Hammerfell what they are do you think they would say Ra' Gadan or Na-Totamban? Or would only the actual warrior and ruling casts use these terms and not their descendants? Would they still just classify themselves as Yokudans? Hammerfellians? Or do you think the games are right and they all just accept the name Redguard now?
Weltan (a Redguard) refers to Redguards as Redguards in Epode of the Ansei Wards, using Ra Gada for poetic purposes, and Na-Totambu refers to the ruling class of Yokuda, not Yokudans as a whole. Crowns consider themselves their purest descendants, and the chances they are right as likely as rat's piss tasting like juniper berry mead, which is to say none.
I am inclined to say they call themselves Redguards — Forebear or Crown when it gets socio-political — as it would not actually be confusing for Redguards to use different adjectives in-game, or in the lore, in my opinion.
Tangent alert:
Honestly, I think Bethesda should just make all of the humans human. It would fit the lore and settle questions like this.
What would Redguards call themselves in such a game? Whatever the player wants as they could make up their own bit of culture amidst the base cultures in the lore. That can be done but it is limited by the overarching labels; a Nord population outside of Skyrim will always be Nord, no matter how divergent [suck ass movie] they are from those in Skyrim.
Weltan (a Redguard) refers to Redguards as Redguards in Epode of the Ansei Wards, using Ra Gada for poetic purposes, and Na-Totambu refers to the ruling class of Yokuda, not Yokudans as a whole. Crowns consider themselves their purest descendants, and the chances they are right as likely as rat's piss tasting like juniper berry mead, which is to say none.
I am inclined to say they call themselves Redguards — Forebear or Crown when it gets socio-political — as it would not actually be confusing for Redguards to use different adjectives in-game, or in the lore, in my opinion.
Tangent alert:
Honestly, I think Bethesda should just make all of the humans human. It would fit the lore and settle questions like this.
What would Redguards call themselves in such a game? Whatever the player wants as they could make up their own bit of culture amidst the base cultures in the lore. That can be done but it is limited by the overarching labels; a Nord population outside of Skyrim will always be Nord, no matter how divergent [suck ass movie] they are from those in Skyrim.
There really is some good Redguard books in ESO:
Lore:Correct Ways of Slaying Ra-Netu: 12 - UESPWiki
Lore:How the Yokudans Chased the Stars - UESPWiki
There really is some good Redguard books in ESO:
Lore:Correct Ways of Slaying Ra-Netu: 12 - UESPWiki
Lore:How the Yokudans Chased the Stars - UESPWiki