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Writers Discuss - Writing the Opposite Gender (#18)

  • Member
    October 21, 2015

    Writers Discuss

    Topic #18 – Writing the Opposite Gender

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    I'm going to assume here that most of us human beings are either of the male of female variety. Gender plays a big part in defining who we are, but we never truly get to experience what the other side is like. So how do we write characters who are the opposite gender of ourselves?

    Here are some questions to consider:

    How do you write characters of the opposite gender?

    How do you write characters of the same gender?

    In what ways do you think people misrepresent your gender?

    Give your two cents to the opposite crowd on writing your gender.

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  • Member
    October 21, 2015

    I have more than your average problems with this in my story U.O.T.W. Not only do I have a main female character (Aela) but I have a main female werewolf (Aela’s werewolf form Red) who has her own personality as well as a female wolf Spirit (Also called Red ) who dwells in the Hunting Grounds...

    Ouch...

    I am lucky in the fact that my other half (AKA Aela blog member) takes a massive interest in my story so she helps considerably with my female characters in a few ways. Firstly I base Aela’s (the char) actions and emotions  on my wife and she is always willing to help with those actions and emotions  as I read out my story to her. I’m also fortunate to have a few members of the opposing gender (is that the right way to put it? Opposing gender? Sounds to me that we’re at war...) who are more than willing to have me send chapters and sections for them to read through and give me feedback.  I just wished I knew a few wolves who would help as well...

    For me that’s the best way. If you know someone or even better a few people of the gender that you are trying to write (Even your own) then ask them to have a read. As I’ve progressed and my writing skill has improved my reliance on the members and my wife has lessened but even now there are times when I have to ask is Aela being too girly or emotional or even about the other chars. As you improve the you will get a better understanding of the characters as they grow.

    For all members of the group regardless of gender, if you ask someone how would a man or a woman react to a situation, make a point of asking WHY they would react that way as well. That would be a big leap inside the characters mind.  How a char reacts is not enough... Find out why they would... To do that you only need to ask.

  • Member
    October 21, 2015

    For me, writing as either gender comes easy enough. I don't know why, perhaps it's my tomboy-ish personality, but writing males and females (and everything else inbetween and out) is surprisingly easy. more to come on this subject a bit later on...

  • Member
    October 21, 2015
    Most of the time, my characters' genders aren't of much consequence, so I just...write them as they are. As people, personalities. Not beings from different sides of an identity spectrum. As for misrepresentation, I suppose in terms of the fantasy genre, I take it with a grain of salt. The status quo on the issue of gender in particularly the Elder Scrolls lacks significant focus already, as far as I observe, anyway. Along with my philosophy of 'let them say what they want', misrepresentation isn't an issue for me and as such, I can't give much of a credible opinion.
  • Member
    October 21, 2015

    I've uh... never.. done it.

    Not for Fallout, not for TES. Not even the idea I have for an independant story.

    The thing is, it would feel artificial to me. If I can't use my own personal "I'm a male and this is how most males think" thought process, it doesn't interest me because I'm so unfamiliar with it. I want to put myself into the situation sometimes and with the opposite gender I can't exactly do that as effectively as I would like.

    My English teacher last year told me that " like to write in a box. don't like to go outside of that box because that box is what know".

  • Member
    October 21, 2015

    So I've only ever written one story here, but the main character is female, and I'm male.  I never really considered how should write someone of the opposite gender.  I had the components to her personality and I had her appearance, so I just wrote.  Maybe it's an amateur mistake to play down gender differences so much, but it never really occurred to me to make it important.  I mean, I flip a coin to decide sex in Skyrim, Fallout, Mass Effect, etc.  

    So I'm afraid I can't offer much in the way of discussion.  

  • Member
    October 21, 2015

    I often write outside the box. This can lead to some instances which leads me way off the resevation, (Just ask Lissette what my Lore abiding % is) but then again thats where I learn from my mistakes. I always try to push myself that bit further and have challenges. Ok they don't always work out, but when they do....

  • October 22, 2015

    For me personally, I have to base my characters on combinations of people I know or have known, and I guess all of us do that to some degree - write from experience, either our own or others.

    The only female character I have written about was in my short story "Love and Necromance" which was based on a long-suffering housewife (that's not from my own experience, my wife's suffering has been relatively short...) because in my line of work I have met quite a few.

    I think its easy to stereotype genders, and sure, there are some emotional and pyschological features of men and women that are common to both sexes. You can also have genders who have stronger masculine or feminine sides which makes character building more interesting. 

    There's also the gay and lesbian and transgender aspects to characters as well - a famous sci fi from the 70s called "The Forever War" dealt with a human soldier fighting in an intergalactic war with an alien race. Because of relativity, a tour might last a year in interstellar space, but hundreds of years pass on earth due to the vast distances involved. At one point, he comes home and everyone has turned gay over the centuries to prevent over-population from too much breeding.

    Fascinating concept.

  • Member
    October 27, 2015

    What I find amusing is that I write more male characters than I do female. Certainly not because I find it easier to write males, but because I invest myself more emotionally in male characters. But, I will admit, it is difficult to write about one of the opposite gender, and I doubt I have it completely right.

    Only through life experience of my brothers and close friends that I at least have a coherent understanding of men. They do, in fact, think, act, and speak differently from females, a notion I've found to be very rare to discover in stories, annoyingly enough. I try (key word try) to make a determinable difference between gender, and I base it on these broad ideas:

    • Males are prone to show less anxiety about their problems, if they expose their dilemmas at all. Most of this is due to cultural ideals set on them, but men tend to be less emotional about an action that happened to them. There's always a variation among them, of course, but to put it blatantly, they are less likely to whine about their problems than females.
    • Males don't play the "guess what I'm thinking" game. You know that silent treatment girls provide to you? Yeah, that definitely doesn't happen.
    • Males are more about action that speech. Whilst girls like to talk out their problems, men like to solve their problems with action. I've found that when I want to talk a lot about a drama problem with my brother, he usually just cuts me off and calls me to action. He doesn't realize I just want to talk about it.

    I'm sure there are subconscious attributes about men that I don't think about when I write them, but I can't really explain a gender in just a few broad terms. And, these aren't set in stone. Everyone's different. Some might act more feminine or masculine than others. These aren't concrete rules.

    It may be even harder to explain my own gender, as I understand all of it and couldn't possibly simplify them in just a small amount of words. But I'll try.

    • Women are prone to think out their action before they do it. Usually by talking it out to a friend, it helps them put every piece of the problem onto the table to fit together and work out. Then they'll act.
    • Women are more emotionally invested as well emotionally connected. Women usually understand their emotions a little more and connect with another human being quicker than a man, as it is their way of interacting with others.
    • Women usually think about more than one thing at a time, whereas men focus more intensely on one thing.

    A common misconception about women that people have--which really grinds my gears--is the assumption that women are categorized only in two ways: tom-boy or extremely feminine. Now, usually this is only made an emphasis in young adult fantasy or middle school romances, but I've grown tired of the lack of variant personalities females are written in--mostly by women themselves! Most of these instances are a product of weak or premature writing abilities, however; I hardly see it on this site, as most of these writers are very skilled in the art of character creation. But it is something I've grown tired of.

    My two cents to other writers is to branch out! Waver from common actions both men and women make. Make a unique character out from its fullest. If you need help, observe each gender around you in daily life; see how they act. Study gender variances online. Read a philosophical book about the mind of men and women. Be well versed.

  • Member
    October 27, 2015

    We haven't done "Killing Characters" yet, have we? I think that'd be an interesting concept.