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Morag Tong vs Dark Brotherhood

• Karver the Lorc

  

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  August 27, 2015

  
  

  I think that almost everybody here knows how Phil feels about Dark Brotherhood. For those who don´t, don´t worry, he´ll drop by and tell you.

  But what interests me here is your opinion on these two groups. Which one do you like more? What do you think about their motives and quest lines in game(s)? Which group is more capable, cooler or deadlier? 

   

  
  

  I think that almost everybody here knows how Phil feels about Dark Brotherhood. For those who don´t, don´t worry, he´ll drop by and tell you.

  But what interests me here is your opinion on these two groups. Which one do you like more? What do you think about their motives and quest lines in game(s)? Which group is more capable, cooler or deadlier? 

   

• Mirric

  

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  August 27, 2015

  Morag tong i love it Dont know why.

  Morag tong i love it Dont know why.

• Karver the Lorc

  

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  August 27, 2015

  I´m writing this just as I´m getting ready to go to bed, so don´t expect answers from me for 8 hours. 

  As for my own opinion. I like the concept and lore of Morag Tong much more than DB. Morag Tong aren´t some fanatics worshipping some arguable deity. They´re not sadists enjoying the slaughtering of innocents. They are legalized faction of Dunmer people. There has to be balance between Great Houses and these guys are there to keep that balance. If I ever became assassin, I would join this group, because they at least have some brains and sense in their cause.

  As for Dark Brotherhood. While I´m not really fond of them, I would say that their questlines are actually better. It might be because they were in newer games, but still...it isn´t just "Kill this guy" all the time. There is some cool story for them in Oblivion (and in Skyrim too, but I can´t discuss it here). Don´t get me wrong, Morag Tong in TES III had some cool quests, but sometimes they felt like Radiant Quests from Skyrim. 

  As for my own belief...I´m not buying all that crap about Sithis. I just think that Night Mother is behind all that. 

  I´m writing this just as I´m getting ready to go to bed, so don´t expect answers from me for 8 hours. 

  As for my own opinion. I like the concept and lore of Morag Tong much more than DB. Morag Tong aren´t some fanatics worshipping some arguable deity. They´re not sadists enjoying the slaughtering of innocents. They are legalized faction of Dunmer people. There has to be balance between Great Houses and these guys are there to keep that balance. If I ever became assassin, I would join this group, because they at least have some brains and sense in their cause.

  As for Dark Brotherhood. While I´m not really fond of them, I would say that their questlines are actually better. It might be because they were in newer games, but still...it isn´t just "Kill this guy" all the time. There is some cool story for them in Oblivion (and in Skyrim too, but I can´t discuss it here). Don´t get me wrong, Morag Tong in TES III had some cool quests, but sometimes they felt like Radiant Quests from Skyrim. 

  As for my own belief...I´m not buying all that crap about Sithis. I just think that Night Mother is behind all that. 

• André Freitas

  

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  August 27, 2015

  Dark Brotherhood is the one I like the most. I can't say I know the Morag Tong very well though... Morag Tong can kill people in front of anyone without getting a bounty. In Morrowind; Morag Tong assassinations are legal etc... Are the things that I think are better than the Dark Brotherhood. The Dark Brotherhood has some way more interesting stuff than the MT going on for it. First, the Black Hand was based on a real Servian assassin organization, that were the main cause for the eruption of the World War II. It was also called Black Hand. Second, the Lore behind it is AMAZING. When she was alive, the Night Mother, sacrificed her 5 sons to honor Sithis, starting a guild of Assassins, the Dark Brotherhood. The murder of Lachance was one of the most radical plot twists of all time (regarding TES lore)! The way the Assassins treat themselves as a family, the Listener, everything is so well put together! I guess that there couldn't be a winner between these two factions, they are so different from each other...IMO But if they would one day face each other, then I would bet on DB for everything the guild has going for it.

  Dark Brotherhood is the one I like the most. I can't say I know the Morag Tong very well though... Morag Tong can kill people in front of anyone without getting a bounty. In Morrowind; Morag Tong assassinations are legal etc... Are the things that I think are better than the Dark Brotherhood. The Dark Brotherhood has some way more interesting stuff than the MT going on for it. First, the Black Hand was based on a real Servian assassin organization, that were the main cause for the eruption of the World War II. It was also called Black Hand. Second, the Lore behind it is AMAZING. When she was alive, the Night Mother, sacrificed her 5 sons to honor Sithis, starting a guild of Assassins, the Dark Brotherhood. The murder of Lachance was one of the most radical plot twists of all time (regarding TES lore)! The way the Assassins treat themselves as a family, the Listener, everything is so well put together! I guess that there couldn't be a winner between these two factions, they are so different from each other...IMO But if they would one day face each other, then I would bet on DB for everything the guild has going for it.
• Veloth the Prophet

  

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  August 27, 2015

  Well I'm sure you all know what my opinion is 

  Well I'm sure you all know what my opinion is 

• Tae-Rai

  

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  August 27, 2015

  Dark Brotherhood! Oh man, who is the better killer? The ones who can execute publically for no bounty, or the ones who must have real skill to slay their targets? 
  
  Also... Shadowscales!

  Dark Brotherhood! Oh man, who is the better killer? The ones who can execute publically for no bounty, or the ones who must have real skill to slay their targets? 
  
  Also... Shadowscales!

• Karver the Lorc

  

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  August 28, 2015

  Why I am not surprised at all?

  Yet any objections on their belief? Motives? Behavior? Come on, am I the only one who is bothered by the thing that Dark Brotherhood is only for sick psychos?

  Why I am not surprised at all?

  Yet any objections on their belief? Motives? Behavior? Come on, am I the only one who is bothered by the thing that Dark Brotherhood is only for sick psychos?

• Karver the Lorc

  

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  August 28, 2015

  No, we don´t.

  No, we don´t.

• Karver the Lorc

  

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  August 28, 2015

  I wouldn´t drag real life Black Hand here at all. Serbia Black Hand was military secret society consisted of hundreds of members which goal was to unite some territories.

  Black Hand of DarkBrotherhood is consisted of 10 members max. 1 Listener, 4 Speakers, 5 Silencers, whereas Listener and Speakers serve as...council sort of.

  As for Night Mother...Don´t trust every crap Dark Brotherhood tells you.

  And you are right, Lucien Luchance was an amazing twist. Oblivion questline was certainly interesting.

  I wouldn´t drag real life Black Hand here at all. Serbia Black Hand was military secret society consisted of hundreds of members which goal was to unite some territories.

  Black Hand of DarkBrotherhood is consisted of 10 members max. 1 Listener, 4 Speakers, 5 Silencers, whereas Listener and Speakers serve as...council sort of.

  As for Night Mother...Don´t trust every crap Dark Brotherhood tells you.

  And you are right, Lucien Luchance was an amazing twist. Oblivion questline was certainly interesting.

• Veloth the Prophet

  

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  August 28, 2015

  Morag Tong all day erryday

  Morag Tong all day erryday