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• Ragnarok

  

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  October 21, 2012 3:17 PM EDT

  Two people would be required to man both of them. And I'm unsure, I think the Illusion trainer is the only one capable of alchemy besides Tolfdir. There should still be supplemental spells, however. That's what I advise you to do.

  What I would do is have those mages work on enchanting the bows. Raining literal fire and ice on targets. Mages and enchanted civilian archers is a dangerous combo. Not to mention enchanted troops being spat out. Have you seen how much you decimate a bandit camp, or an entire tomb by yourself with only one enchantment on your kit? Imagine two enchantments on all possible pieces. You'd be spewing demigods, capable of ripping through the force unlike a normal soldier could ever dream of. 

• Ragnarok

  

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  October 21, 2012 3:26 PM EDT

  Shock. If they are Nords, Dark Elves, kitty-cats, anything along those lines, none are resistant to shock. Disintegrate them and have a party on the dust.

• Ragnarok

  

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  October 21, 2012 3:42 PM EDT

  I believe we're forgetting that this is tactical advantages and disadvantages for crypts, ruins, and towers. Shall we discuss something that fits this format instead? How about Hag's End? Talos, want to do an assessment (like you did with Labryinthian on the first page) on it?

• Talos

  

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  October 21, 2012 4:27 PM EDT

  NAME:Hag's End/Deepwood Vale
  TYPE: Ancient Nord Tunnel/Temple Complex
  ADVANTAGES: Single tunnel entrance, trap-laden
  DANGER LEVEL: Very High (death for the impatient)
  DISADVANTAGES: Traps can be timed and disarmed, entrance to Vale out of range of archers, main complex cut off from supply routes
  ATTACKING: Small recon teams to neutralize tunnel defenders and traps, larger force to mass at tunnel exit for assault on Complex
  DEFENSE: Archers and Skirmishers in tunnels, Rune Traps on walls and hidden by debris, archers on ramparts, infantry behind the archers and within the Complex
• Ragnarok

  

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  October 21, 2012 5:19 PM EDT

  Alright, so how many numbers do you think we need for a defensive team against, say, 100 Imperial Troops? 

• Talos

  

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  October 21, 2012 5:25 PM EDT

  Mage (x10)
  Melee (x25)
  Ranged/Stealth (x10)
  Mixers (x5)
• Ragnarok

  

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  October 21, 2012 5:51 PM EDT

  50 men, eh? I can work with that. Give me a little while with a map.

• Talos

  

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  October 21, 2012 6:56 PM EDT

  That's assuming that you, me, Nia, Emer, Scar, Dieter, Noc2, and Kade are among them...
• Spectre

  

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  October 21, 2012 7:42 PM EDT

  Fear the commanders, it will severely weaken morale of the enemy, and let's not forget the Augur of Dunlain and the Atronach Forge.
• Spectre

  

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  October 21, 2012 7:45 PM EDT

  Also for Winterhold, whoever is in control will likely pull their professional soldiers back, which could provide a formidable melee defence and provide bows for civilians.
• Spectre

  

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  October 21, 2012 7:48 PM EDT

  Although not ruined, High Hrothgar, enemy has to go up an entire mountain to reach you, easily defendable, Paathurnax and Greybeards kicking butt, I like that situation.
• Talos

  

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  October 21, 2012 8:12 PM EDT

  You'd need to place skirmishers and ambushers at key locations, you'd also face dwindling supplies... If they get to the Monastery steps, they could build siege fortifications... You'd need, atleast, 150 well-trained, heavily armed men, unless you have seasoned fighters... You'd also have civilians to care for... Unless you choose to forsake Ivarstead... That will be a massive drain on your food-stores... Paarthunax/Odahviing and the Greybeards won't be to happy about fighting (it's against the Greybeards philosophy, and the Dovah atop the Throat of the World are there, because they're hiding from the rest of Tamriel/Nirn)...
• Spectre

  

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  October 21, 2012 8:24 PM EDT

  If they're attacked then they'll probably fight, the Ivarstead town guard can do a fighting retreat, also they may not like it but the dragons can do food runs. A few ambushes and skirmishes with cover by archer and dragons/dovahkiin a army will be delayed for weeks. You could be raining hell on them forcing a commander with finite resources/ manpower to retreat.
• Talos

  

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  October 21, 2012 8:39 PM EDT

  The Monastery doesn't have ramparts... It wasn't designed with war in mind... You'd have to fight in front of it... Guerilla warfare would be the best way to hold it... Hit and run, in multiple locations... Raid enemy supply trains... Another thing, the enemy would be warm at their FOB in Ivarstead, while your forces freeze on the mountain... Don't use dovah for supply runs, you'd need to make a saddle (of sorts) to carry the supplies... Instead, if you must, use them to strafe enemy positions... While their attention is divided, you can deal significant damage, with a force of 4-5 archers...
• Talos

  

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  October 21, 2012 8:54 PM EDT

  Make sure one of the enchantments is Soul Trap... It's morbid, yet VERY handy...
• Matt Feeney the New Guy

  

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  October 21, 2012 9:06 PM EDT

  Markarth
  Advantages: All rock. Easily defendable entrance( sort of *See later). Many towers to shoot from. Somewhat narrow path that they'll have to cross before reaching the gates( having to endure arrow fire the whole time).
  Disadvantages: They've essentially trapped themselves. There IS another entrance from the Dwarven Ruin which connects to Blackreach), it comes right next to the Jarl's throne room.
  Attacking: It would basically be a waiting game, maybe take some of the towers to pressure them even more, but it'd mostly be stopping supplies.
  Defending: Easy defend, tough live in. You could send out patrols to pick up food, but the enemy has most likely "boxed you in" already.
  *Note: I would be very curious to see if ANY military would be able to take advantage of Blackreach, it could be invaluable or a death sentence. It could be used to set up out-of-nowhere assaults on supply carriages, camps, or certain cities like Markarth.

• Spectre

  

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  October 21, 2012 9:07 PM EDT

  1. The monestary has a roof doesn't it? You're also forgetting throat of the world.
  2. Raids would be effective, also the enemy can't have everyone at the bottom, it allows too much freedom, if your men can get low enough, they can climb down and find help. The greybeards, if they won't fight, have them use throw voice to confuse and disorient. Keep the enemy on watch and strained long enough, they'll snap.
• Talos

  

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  October 21, 2012 9:16 PM EDT

  There's no access to the roof... And, you'd have to hold out until reinforcements arrive, IF they arrive...
• Spectre

  

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  October 21, 2012 9:21 PM EDT

  For defending:
  1. Unless the Forsworn are the attackers, they will be a thorn in the side of whoever.
  2. Nchuand-Zel, after the Falmer are cleared, citizens can barricade themselves into a small part and release the automatons. Scores if not hundreds of machined suddenly appearing would rip the enemy to pieces. You can then turn them off and return to life.
• Talos

  

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  October 21, 2012 9:22 PM EDT

  To take Blackreach, you'd have to send in four-man Stealth squads, to clear it and the adjoining ruins, then stock and garrison it... Also, place fortifications to protect your men, should it be breached... Wipe out the Falmer, Chaurus, Frostbites, and Constructs, and it would be the perfect Bandit stronghold...
• Spectre

  

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  October 21, 2012 9:27 PM EDT

  Roof can be accessed from the back, even if renforcements don't come(unlikely, every nord treasures the place), the men can still forage, raid, etc. If they're skilled, they could lead the bears to Ivarstead, chaos ensues!
• Spectre

  

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  October 21, 2012 9:32 PM EDT

  The stealth teams could forage inside( the falmer had to eat something)! The stealth teams could be forsworn and silverblood agents who are already experienced.
• Spectre

  

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  October 21, 2012 10:37 PM EDT

  Name: Skybound Watch Pass
  Type: Ruins/ Pass
  Offensive strategy: Close off both sides. Take exterior structures by sending light infantry under a hail of arrows. Starve them out, if no time then use mages to burn the rooms then send heavily armored infantry to clear out survivors.
  Defensive Strategy: Create Rockfalls at one end, Use ranged weaponry, preferably crossbows. If troops get in, use daggers and short swords to hit enemies in confined areas.
  Alt. Defensive Strategy: Force enemy to split up forces. Use a rearguard at one end. Use remaining troops to break out on the enemy's weaker side, falling to friendly positions.
• Anthony

  

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  October 22, 2012 8:25 AM EDT

  Or as I have experienced one dragonborn

• Talos

  

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  October 22, 2012 8:42 AM EDT

  Too risky to use Forsworn and Silverblood... They're mortal enemies... Especially, after the Markarth Incident... And a Dovahkiin can only move so fast... Best to go with Rangers, Thieves, Agents, Hunters, Archers, and Assassins... Those six Classes, in addition to my Custom, will clear the Blackreach Complex...