Lady Nerevar and The Imperial Library have been given permission/actively encouraged to copy the Heroes Guide to Tamriel to their archives for our reading pleasure. So I delved straight into Gathering Force, Arms and Armour of Tamriel. What surprised me was this little sentence on the High Elven Champion:
It took some gentle, purring persuasion on the part of the Khajiiti champion, Zadabal-ra, to convince the aloof, golden-skinned inhabitant of Summerset Isles to arrive at our fighters' feast. But arrive he did, bringing a caravan of gleaming shields, winged helms, and spears dedicated to Phynaster the Guardian. Though we uncultured barbarians of the mainland had to sit through copious waffle regarding our shortfalls in battle, which almost brought the Nord champion to a seething, violent outburst, tempers were soothed with mead and some ferocious combat training, where the soaring and fluid designs of the Altmeri weapons of war—thin and swan necked like their ships
were finally tested.
Now, as the title of this discussion says, it was the reference to Phynaster the Guardian which interested me. I thought this deity was the equivalent of Arkay because of his connection to the lifespan of elves as described in Varieties of Faith and that same longevity's connection to necromancy as described in Corpse Preperation:
Summerset Isle is even worse in some ways. Some Altmer born into the most respected noble and scholarly families are actually allowed to study the dead in the open. Their research, however, seems to be centered on finding ways to extend their lives even further rather than the more practical uses of our Art. A Necromancer of any other race caught in Summerset Isle can expect the worst possible punishments.
However, ESO came and blew that assumption out of the water by linking Xarxes to Arkay. So where does this leave Phynaster? In my estimation he has dropped from Greater Spirit (one of the Eight) to ascended greater spirit (hero-god), which is tricky as it pretty much describes all Altmeri gods. So where does this "Guardian" title come from? Guarding the elves from death by old age? Hardly a warriors god.
Who is Phynaster?
Lady Nerevar and The Imperial Library have been given permission/actively encouraged to copy the Heroes Guide to Tamriel to their archives for our reading pleasure. So I delved straight into Gathering Force, Arms and Armour of Tamriel. What surprised me was this little sentence on the High Elven Champion:
It took some gentle, purring persuasion on the part of the Khajiiti champion, Zadabal-ra, to convince the aloof, golden-skinned inhabitant of Summerset Isles to arrive at our fighters' feast. But arrive he did, bringing a caravan of gleaming shields, winged helms, and spears dedicated to Phynaster the Guardian. Though we uncultured barbarians of the mainland had to sit through copious waffle regarding our shortfalls in battle, which almost brought the Nord champion to a seething, violent outburst, tempers were soothed with mead and some ferocious combat training, where the soaring and fluid designs of the Altmeri weapons of war—thin and swan necked like their ships
were finally tested.
Now, as the title of this discussion says, it was the reference to Phynaster the Guardian which interested me. I thought this deity was the equivalent of Arkay because of his connection to the lifespan of elves as described in Varieties of Faith and that same longevity's connection to necromancy as described in Corpse Preperation:
Summerset Isle is even worse in some ways. Some Altmer born into the most respected noble and scholarly families are actually allowed to study the dead in the open. Their research, however, seems to be centered on finding ways to extend their lives even further rather than the more practical uses of our Art. A Necromancer of any other race caught in Summerset Isle can expect the worst possible punishments.
However, ESO came and blew that assumption out of the water by linking Xarxes to Arkay. So where does this leave Phynaster? In my estimation he has dropped from Greater Spirit (one of the Eight) to ascended greater spirit (hero-god), which is tricky as it pretty much describes all Altmeri gods. So where does this "Guardian" title come from? Guarding the elves from death by old age? Hardly a warriors god.
Who is Phynaster?
I'm not sure whether he has an equivalent in Cyrodilic religion. Quoting the relevant passage from Tamrielic Lore:
The Ring of Phynaster was made hundreds of years ago by a man who needed good defenses to survive his adventurous life. Thanks to the Ring, Phynaster lived for hundreds of years, and since then it has passed from person to person. The Ring improves its wearer's overall resistance to poison, magicka, and shock. Still, Phynaster was cunning and cursed the ring so that it eventually disappears from its holder's possessions and returns to another resting place, discontent to stay anywhere but with Phynaster himself.
Notice the bolded parts. The second one might explain the "Guardian" title. The first one points out his ascension.
I'm not sure whether he has an equivalent in Cyrodilic religion. Quoting the relevant passage from Tamrielic Lore:
The Ring of Phynaster was made hundreds of years ago by a man who needed good defenses to survive his adventurous life. Thanks to the Ring, Phynaster lived for hundreds of years, and since then it has passed from person to person. The Ring improves its wearer's overall resistance to poison, magicka, and shock. Still, Phynaster was cunning and cursed the ring so that it eventually disappears from its holder's possessions and returns to another resting place, discontent to stay anywhere but with Phynaster himself.
Notice the bolded parts. The second one might explain the "Guardian" title. The first one points out his ascension.
That's a good point and really brings out the Guardian title and would explain the Altmer Champion above:
bringing a caravan of gleaming shields, winged helms, and spears dedicated to Phynaster
Notice how I put this in:
(one of the Eight) to ascended greater spirit (hero-god), which is tricky as it pretty much describes all Altmeri gods
So if we take your quote and change "by a man" to "by a mer", we get Phynastor the ascended hero-god.
Indeed, I've read a pretty convincing theory that there are in fact two Auriels, one who is a god, another who was the mortal who "ascended in full view".
This is where the concept of Aedra and Daedra break down.
That's a good point and really brings out the Guardian title and would explain the Altmer Champion above:
bringing a caravan of gleaming shields, winged helms, and spears dedicated to Phynaster
Notice how I put this in:
(one of the Eight) to ascended greater spirit (hero-god), which is tricky as it pretty much describes all Altmeri gods
So if we take your quote and change "by a man" to "by a mer", we get Phynastor the ascended hero-god.
Indeed, I've read a pretty convincing theory that there are in fact two Auriels, one who is a god, another who was the mortal who "ascended in full view".
This is where the concept of Aedra and Daedra break down.