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Let's Investigate: The Ring of the Hunt

• Teccam

  

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  August 1, 2015

  That's in combat too! And you could push it higher if you really tried.... 

  That's in combat too! And you could push it higher if you really tried.... 

• Vazgen

  

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  August 1, 2015

  This is something that might make me to give a werewolf character a real try... Great job, Tec! 

  This is something that might make me to give a werewolf character a real try... Great job, Tec! 

• Teccam

  

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  August 1, 2015

  Thanks, Vaz. You'd better make a werewolf build now. 

  Thanks, Vaz. You'd better make a werewolf build now. 

• Paws

  

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  August 1, 2015

  Is there any way, any way at all, to get this ring to work when not in Beast Form?

  Is there any way, any way at all, to get this ring to work when not in Beast Form?

• Teccam

  

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  August 1, 2015

  Phil, your reply isn't showing up for me for some reason. (I think because it's the 13th comment, which should appear on page 2, yet because Ning is dumb, I don't have an option to access page 2.)

  Short answer: I don't think so.

  Long answer: As I mentioned in the OP, the ring's effects are applied via a script that begins when you enter Beast Form and ends when your form ends. I'm not very good at deciphering papyrus, so it's certainly possible that there may be a way to trick the game into letting you keep the ring's effects in human form. But to my eyes as a novice of scripting, it looks like the effects should be removed every time you exit Beast Form.

  I can copy the script's contents here if anyone is interested in trying to analyze it. There are some pretty amusing bits in there actually.

  Phil, your reply isn't showing up for me for some reason. (I think because it's the 13th comment, which should appear on page 2, yet because Ning is dumb, I don't have an option to access page 2.)

  Short answer: I don't think so.

  Long answer: As I mentioned in the OP, the ring's effects are applied via a script that begins when you enter Beast Form and ends when your form ends. I'm not very good at deciphering papyrus, so it's certainly possible that there may be a way to trick the game into letting you keep the ring's effects in human form. But to my eyes as a novice of scripting, it looks like the effects should be removed every time you exit Beast Form.

  I can copy the script's contents here if anyone is interested in trying to analyze it. There are some pretty amusing bits in there actually.

• Raid

  

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  August 4, 2015

  I'd be interested, if you wouldn't mind copying it out. While I'm not a PC player, I could take a look.

  I'd be interested, if you wouldn't mind copying it out. While I'm not a PC player, I could take a look.

• Teccam

  

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  August 4, 2015

  I found three scripts that seem central to this subject:

  • PlayerWerewolfChangeScript
  • DLC2dunFrostmoonPlayerScript
  • DLC2dunFrostmoonQSTRingScript

  Like I said, I really can't make much of these. The first script is the general transformation script, though it doesn't actually mention the Frostmoon rings. The second script seems to be the main script that applies the ring effects when you transform, and removes them when you change back. I'm not even sure exactly what the third script does, but it seems relevant as well.

  I found three scripts that seem central to this subject:

  • PlayerWerewolfChangeScript
  • DLC2dunFrostmoonPlayerScript
  • DLC2dunFrostmoonQSTRingScript

  Like I said, I really can't make much of these. The first script is the general transformation script, though it doesn't actually mention the Frostmoon rings. The second script seems to be the main script that applies the ring effects when you transform, and removes them when you change back. I'm not even sure exactly what the third script does, but it seems relevant as well.

• Paws

  

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  August 4, 2015

  I'll be watching this with great interest. Maybe the change script could be kept active after the duration ends by having another effect on top of it with a longer duration. Hell, I don't know what I'm saying either but there must be a way dammit!

  I'll be watching this with great interest. Maybe the change script could be kept active after the duration ends by having another effect on top of it with a longer duration. Hell, I don't know what I'm saying either but there must be a way dammit!

• André Freitas

  

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  August 6, 2015

  Beast Form activated!

  Beast Form activated!
• Raid

  

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  August 7, 2015

  This seems to be the key bit... (probably will need to open in another tab since it's kinda fuzzy)

  

  But I have no idea how you'd keep the effect...

  Would equipping the ring while in Beast Form via the chat glitch work? It's probably been tried before but I can't really think of anything aside from somehow forcing the effect, or doing something like Phil suggested.

  On a side note, is it possible to chat glitch all four rings on at once, so that all four effects take place? Maybe use Ring of Hircine to stack them, then wait out the transformation and use Beast Form again for all four rings to take effect?

  Are the rings' effects applied during transformation, or would they work if they were chat glitched on? So could I transform without the Ring of the Hunt, then use the chat glitch to equip it and still use its effects?

  This seems to be the key bit... (probably will need to open in another tab since it's kinda fuzzy)

  

  But I have no idea how you'd keep the effect...

  Would equipping the ring while in Beast Form via the chat glitch work? It's probably been tried before but I can't really think of anything aside from somehow forcing the effect, or doing something like Phil suggested.

  On a side note, is it possible to chat glitch all four rings on at once, so that all four effects take place? Maybe use Ring of Hircine to stack them, then wait out the transformation and use Beast Form again for all four rings to take effect?

  Are the rings' effects applied during transformation, or would they work if they were chat glitched on? So could I transform without the Ring of the Hunt, then use the chat glitch to equip it and still use its effects?