Over the last couple of days, Zenimax has provided a ton of information about the upcoming Morrowind expansion. However, juicy tidbits were provided a little at a time over the course of numerous interviews, both in print and in YouTube. This trickle of information over multiple sources has made my job a tedious venture. Thankfully, UESP has provided a great breakdown of of the important point, which are as follows:
Warden Class
Game Mechanics
- ESO: Morrowind's base game patch will introduce many changes and updates to Cyrodiil.
- The RNG of loot, like Undaunted chests, are considered a "pain point" that the team is considering ways to solve, with a token system possibly being one such way.
Over the last couple of days, Zenimax has provided a ton of information about the upcoming Morrowind expansion. However, juicy tidbits were provided a little at a time over the course of numerous interviews, both in print and in YouTube. This trickle of information over multiple sources has made my job a tedious venture. Thankfully, UESP has provided a great breakdown of of the important point, which are as follows:
Warden Class
Game Mechanics
- ESO: Morrowind's base game patch will introduce many changes and updates to Cyrodiil.
- The RNG of loot, like Undaunted chests, are considered a "pain point" that the team is considering ways to solve, with a token system possibly being one such way.
This is quite the expansion. 30+ hour main quest (not including side quests) and up to 40% larger than the Orsinium DLC (which is the largest DLC to date).
This is quite the expansion. 30+ hour main quest (not including side quests) and up to 40% larger than the Orsinium DLC (which is the largest DLC to date).
- During the storyline, Baar Dau will continue descending as Vivec gets weaker, even erupting into flames at its most dire.
This is what excites me. We know Vivec stopped this. Or rather his legend tells us he did. I would freakin' love it if the whole thing was a lie, that our protagonist halts Lie Rock while Vivec gets the credit. That would make my year.
I'm not sure just how much glass it took to make your hair
Twice as much, I am sure, as the oceans have to share
Hell, my sweet, is a fiction written by those who tell the truth
My mouth is skilled at lying and its alibi a tooth
The liar poet.
- During the storyline, Baar Dau will continue descending as Vivec gets weaker, even erupting into flames at its most dire.
This is what excites me. We know Vivec stopped this. Or rather his legend tells us he did. I would freakin' love it if the whole thing was a lie, that our protagonist halts Lie Rock while Vivec gets the credit. That would make my year.
I'm not sure just how much glass it took to make your hair
Twice as much, I am sure, as the oceans have to share
Hell, my sweet, is a fiction written by those who tell the truth
My mouth is skilled at lying and its alibi a tooth
The liar poet.
- Cliff racers haven't learned to fly freely yet; instead they're Cliff Striders, a bit more grounded.
I know this is because of game mechanics\design but goddammit it's so dumb.
- Re: Dwemer, "some things are better left unsaid."
GOOD! We don't need no answers, we will make our own!
- Developers and playtesters alike went back to TES3 to play around, read up on the in-game lore, and brought what they learned into ESO:M.
I hope they studied the 36 Lessons extensively.
- Cliff racers haven't learned to fly freely yet; instead they're Cliff Striders, a bit more grounded.
I know this is because of game mechanics\design but goddammit it's so dumb.
- Re: Dwemer, "some things are better left unsaid."
GOOD! We don't need no answers, we will make our own!
- Developers and playtesters alike went back to TES3 to play around, read up on the in-game lore, and brought what they learned into ESO:M.
I hope they studied the 36 Lessons extensively.
On The Morag Tong:
Yeah, they’re not something players can join, and the Lore is very clear on that. They’re an extremely select group of Dunmer, and Dunmer only.
Hmm, this isn't actually true. In Morrowind, there is both an Orc and an Argonian who are members of the Morag Tong.
On The Morag Tong:
Yeah, they’re not something players can join, and the Lore is very clear on that. They’re an extremely select group of Dunmer, and Dunmer only.
Hmm, this isn't actually true. In Morrowind, there is both an Orc and an Argonian who are members of the Morag Tong.
Veloth the Prophet said:On The Morag Tong:
Yeah, they’re not something players can join, and the Lore is very clear on that. They’re an extremely select group of Dunmer, and Dunmer only.
Hmm, this isn't actually true. In Morrowind, there is both an Orc and an Argonian who are members of the Morag Tong.
Where did you find this quote and who said it?
Nonetheless, when it is said, "the Lore is very clear on that" (it's interesting that you capitalized "Lore"), it confirms my suspicions. I've come to realize that when an ESO dev is talking about "lore," (1) they take liberties where things are not quite as settled as we think or they try to shake up our "lore comfort zone"; and (2) they are talking about a very specific mindset in Second Era of Tamriel.
This would pose some unique challenges to the upcoming expansion. Vvardenfell appears to be steeped in a more traditional Dunmeri mindset (i.e., it did not join the Ebonheart Pact which means that it does not "think" or "agree" (culturally, politically) like the rest of Morrowind; it still sanctions Argonian slavery for all Dumner [not just Telvanni]; etc, etc). Even in the Ebonheart Pact side quests, you can see how the Dunmer are slowly adopting non-traditional Dunmeri views and attitudes, which do not correspond to the traditional cultural and political attitudes of Vvardenfell.
Yes, the single player game, Morrowind, had some members of the lesser races in the Morag Tong. However, that was in the Third Era; ESO is in the Second Era. So, when the devs say that the Lore is clear about the Morag Tong, they could be talking about the Lore as the general mindset of the Second Era in a very traditional Vvardenfell. Lots of things changed in Morrowind between the Second and Third Eras; and, if in the Second Era, Dunmeri views in the mainland are already beginning to change, how much more would it change from era-to-era?
I know I'm "shoe-horning" to some degree, but it's something to consider.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/VelothTheProphet]Veloth the Prophet[/url] said:[/b]
On The Morag Tong:
Yeah, they’re not something players can join, and the Lore is very clear on that. They’re an extremely select group of Dunmer, and Dunmer only.
Hmm, this isn't actually true. In Morrowind, there is both an Orc and an Argonian who are members of the Morag Tong.
[/blockquote]
Where did you find this quote and who said it?
Nonetheless, when it is said, "the Lore is very clear on that" (it's interesting that you capitalized "Lore"), it confirms my suspicions. I've come to realize that when an ESO dev is talking about "lore," (1) they take liberties where things are not quite as settled as we think or they try to shake up our "lore comfort zone"; and (2) they are talking about a very specific mindset in Second Era of Tamriel.
This would pose some unique challenges to the upcoming expansion. Vvardenfell appears to be steeped in a more traditional Dunmeri mindset (i.e., it did not join the Ebonheart Pact which means that it does not "think" or "agree" (culturally, politically) like the rest of Morrowind; it still sanctions Argonian slavery for all Dumner [not just Telvanni]; etc, etc). Even in the Ebonheart Pact side quests, you can see how the Dunmer are slowly adopting non-traditional Dunmeri views and attitudes, which do not correspond to the traditional cultural and political attitudes of Vvardenfell.
Yes, the single player game, Morrowind, had some members of the lesser races in the Morag Tong. However, that was in the Third Era; ESO is in the Second Era. So, when the devs say that the Lore is clear about the Morag Tong, they could be talking about the Lore as the general mindset of the Second Era in a very traditional Vvardenfell. Lots of things changed in Morrowind between the Second and Third Eras; and, if in the Second Era, Dunmeri views in the mainland are already beginning to change, how much more would it change from era-to-era?
I know I'm "shoe-horning" to some degree, but it's something to consider.
Patriarch said:Veloth the Prophet said:On The Morag Tong:
Yeah, they’re not something players can join, and the Lore is very clear on that. They’re an extremely select group of Dunmer, and Dunmer only.
Hmm, this isn't actually true. In Morrowind, there is both an Orc and an Argonian who are members of the Morag Tong.
Where did you find this quote and who said it?
Nonetheless, when it is said, "the Lore is very clear on that" (it's interesting that you capitalized "Lore"), it confirms my suspicions. I've come to realize that when an ESO dev is talking about "lore," (1) they take liberties where things are not quite as settled as we think or they try to shake up our "lore comfort zone"; and (2) they are talking about a very specific mindset in Second Era of Tamriel.
This would pose some unique challenges to the upcoming expansion. Vvardenfell appears to be steeped in a more traditional Dunmeri mindset (i.e., it did not join the Ebonheart Pact which means that it does not "think" or "agree" (culturally, politically) like the rest of Morrowind; it still sanctions Argonian slavery for all Dumner [not just Telvanni]; etc, etc). Even in the Ebonheart Pact side quests, you can see how the Dunmer are slowly adopting non-traditional Dunmeri views and attitudes, which do not correspond to the traditional cultural and political attitudes of Vvardenfell.
Yes, the single player game, Morrowind, had some members of the lesser races in the Morag Tong. However, that was in the Third Era; ESO is in the Second Era. So, when the devs say that the Lore is clear about the Morag Tong, they could be talking about the Lore as the general mindset of the Second Era in a very traditional Vvardenfell. Lots of things changed in Morrowind between the Second and Third Eras; and, if in the Second Era, Dunmeri views in the mainland are already beginning to change, how much more would it change from era-to-era?
I know I'm "shoe-horning" to some degree, but it's something to consider.
I read it here: Matt Firor Talks Morrowind and More - GameSpace.com
Yeah, you might be right on the Morag Tong not opening its doors to non-Dunmer until later on, specifically not until Morrowind joined the Empire would make sense. I'm actually not bothered that you can't join the Morag Tong, it's pretty cool that they are making them seem more aloof and exclusive than the come-one-come-all Dark Brotherhood.
It would be cool if the Camonna Tong did turn up though. They didn't get anywhere near as much screen time as the Morag did and I would like to see them get fleshed out and some more world building. Also some totally new Tongs would be cool as well.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Patriarch]Patriarch[/url] said:[/b]
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/VelothTheProphet]Veloth the Prophet[/url] said:[/b]
On The Morag Tong:
Yeah, they’re not something players can join, and the Lore is very clear on that. They’re an extremely select group of Dunmer, and Dunmer only.
Hmm, this isn't actually true. In Morrowind, there is both an Orc and an Argonian who are members of the Morag Tong.
[/blockquote]
Where did you find this quote and who said it?
Nonetheless, when it is said, "the Lore is very clear on that" (it's interesting that you capitalized "Lore"), it confirms my suspicions. I've come to realize that when an ESO dev is talking about "lore," (1) they take liberties where things are not quite as settled as we think or they try to shake up our "lore comfort zone"; and (2) they are talking about a very specific mindset in Second Era of Tamriel.
This would pose some unique challenges to the upcoming expansion. Vvardenfell appears to be steeped in a more traditional Dunmeri mindset (i.e., it did not join the Ebonheart Pact which means that it does not "think" or "agree" (culturally, politically) like the rest of Morrowind; it still sanctions Argonian slavery for all Dumner [not just Telvanni]; etc, etc). Even in the Ebonheart Pact side quests, you can see how the Dunmer are slowly adopting non-traditional Dunmeri views and attitudes, which do not correspond to the traditional cultural and political attitudes of Vvardenfell.
Yes, the single player game, Morrowind, had some members of the lesser races in the Morag Tong. However, that was in the Third Era; ESO is in the Second Era. So, when the devs say that the Lore is clear about the Morag Tong, they could be talking about the Lore as the general mindset of the Second Era in a very traditional Vvardenfell. Lots of things changed in Morrowind between the Second and Third Eras; and, if in the Second Era, Dunmeri views in the mainland are already beginning to change, how much more would it change from era-to-era?
I know I'm "shoe-horning" to some degree, but it's something to consider.
[/blockquote]
I read it here: Matt Firor Talks Morrowind and More - GameSpace.com
Yeah, you might be right on the Morag Tong not opening its doors to non-Dunmer until later on, specifically not until Morrowind joined the Empire would make sense. I'm actually not bothered that you can't join the Morag Tong, it's pretty cool that they are making them seem more aloof and exclusive than the come-one-come-all Dark Brotherhood.
It would be cool if the Camonna Tong did turn up though. They didn't get anywhere near as much screen time as the Morag did and I would like to see them get fleshed out and some more world building. Also some totally new Tongs would be cool as well.