D3LTAFOX said:You might get to be our first Detective to get the 5 point milestone :D have fun with the investigation!I'm claiming the Goodneighbour case file! It's my favorite city in Fallout 4.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/D3LTAFOX]D3LTAFOX[/url] said:[/b]
I'm claiming the Goodneighbour case file! It's my favorite city in Fallout 4.
[/blockquote] You might get to be our first Detective to get the 5 point milestone :D have fun with the investigation!
Ragin Cajun said:Thanks for giving a foothold to the investigation! Are you okay if I title it "Statistics of melee weapons" or is that too vague? too specific?OK Detectives, I have a case for you. In particular I am interested in the nuances for Melee combat with melee weapons (using the Big League perk), so things like knives, tire irons, sledgehammers, etc. (Not boxing gloves, Swan's Fist, etal).
More specifically, I am interested in how the weapons weight (ie attack speed factor) may influence overall weapon damage and how to derive what weapon may be the best when comparing two or more weapons. The example presented below is just one sample of evidence I have gathered to get you started. I look forward to what your digging and analysis unveils.
As a specific example to give you your first lead in the case, I present Exhibits A and B.
Exhibit A is a Baseball Bat that has been modified with lengths of chain wrapped around the barrel. In weighing this particular bat it comes in at 4.1 lbs and damage of 33; speed is SLOW.
Exhibit B is a basic Sledgehammer, no modifications. It weights in at 12 lbs, damage of 32 and speed SLOW.
A basic query to start your investigation...
1. While both items are labeled SLOW for attack speed, does the physical weight further slow down attacks (or not) and does this affect the ability to bring damage to an enemy. And if so, how?
Happy sleuthing to an aspiring Valentine out there.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/JohnLeBlanc]Ragin Cajun[/url] said:[/b]
OK Detectives, I have a case for you. In particular I am interested in the nuances for Melee combat with melee weapons (using the Big League perk), so things like knives, tire irons, sledgehammers, etc. (Not boxing gloves, Swan's Fist, etal).
More specifically, I am interested in how the weapons weight (ie attack speed factor) may influence overall weapon damage and how to derive what weapon may be the best when comparing two or more weapons. The example presented below is just one sample of evidence I have gathered to get you started. I look forward to what your digging and analysis unveils.
As a specific example to give you your first lead in the case, I present Exhibits A and B.
Exhibit A is a Baseball Bat that has been modified with lengths of chain wrapped around the barrel. In weighing this particular bat it comes in at 4.1 lbs and damage of 33; speed is SLOW.
Exhibit B is a basic Sledgehammer, no modifications. It weights in at 12 lbs, damage of 32 and speed SLOW.
A basic query to start your investigation...
1. While both items are labeled SLOW for attack speed, does the physical weight further slow down attacks (or not) and does this affect the ability to bring damage to an enemy. And if so, how?
Happy sleuthing to an aspiring Valentine out there.
[/blockquote] Thanks for giving a foothold to the investigation! Are you okay if I title it "Statistics of melee weapons" or is that too vague? too specific?
I'm ok with whatever, but that might be to vague. We have the stats...I'm more interested in the inner workings of those stats. Do all medium weapons swing at the same speed? Does the weight affect the speed ratio? This could adversely affect the actual DPS and damage ability if it does. So really a more in depth look at how they work and how to compare (accurately) two similarly categorized weapons (as I've used in my example). Is it truly 1pt difference per hit? Or does the weight factor in allowing a lighter weapon to hit more frequently so while it may be a -1 in listed damage; per five hits you may actually get another full damage register; in return making it a better weapon for multiple hit battles.Thanks for giving a foothold to the investigation! Are you okay if I title it "Statistics of melee weapons" or is that too vague? too specific?
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Thanks for giving a foothold to the investigation! Are you okay if I title it "Statistics of melee weapons" or is that too vague? too specific?
[/blockquote]I'm ok with whatever, but that might be to vague. We have the stats...I'm more interested in the inner workings of those stats. Do all medium weapons swing at the same speed? Does the weight affect the speed ratio? This could adversely affect the actual DPS and damage ability if it does. So really a more in depth look at how they work and how to compare (accurately) two similarly categorized weapons (as I've used in my example). Is it truly 1pt difference per hit? Or does the weight factor in allowing a lighter weapon to hit more frequently so while it may be a -1 in listed damage; per five hits you may actually get another full damage register; in return making it a better weapon for multiple hit battles.
Done, with limited success but interesting implications nonetheless.
http://tamrielvault.com/groups/topic/view/group_id/13/topic_id/8839/post_id/105462
Done, with limited success but interesting implications nonetheless.
http://tamrielvault.com/groups/topic/view/group_id/13/topic_id/8839/post_id/105462
Ragin Cajun said:your explanation makes sense, I just put that whoever wants to claim it should get clarification from your commentI'm ok with whatever, but that might be to vague. We have the stats...I'm more interested in the inner workings of those stats. Do all medium weapons swing at the same speed? Does the weight affect the speed ratio? This could adversely affect the actual DPS and damage ability if it does. So really a more in depth look at how they work and how to compare (accurately) two similarly categorized weapons (as I've used in my example). Is it truly 1pt difference per hit? Or does the weight factor in allowing a lighter weapon to hit more frequently so while it may be a -1 in listed damage; per five hits you may actually get another full damage register; in return making it a better weapon for multiple hit battles.Thanks for giving a foothold to the investigation! Are you okay if I title it "Statistics of melee weapons" or is that too vague? too specific?
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/JohnLeBlanc]Ragin Cajun[/url] said:[/b]
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Thanks for giving a foothold to the investigation! Are you okay if I title it "Statistics of melee weapons" or is that too vague? too specific?
[/blockquote]I'm ok with whatever, but that might be to vague. We have the stats...I'm more interested in the inner workings of those stats. Do all medium weapons swing at the same speed? Does the weight affect the speed ratio? This could adversely affect the actual DPS and damage ability if it does. So really a more in depth look at how they work and how to compare (accurately) two similarly categorized weapons (as I've used in my example). Is it truly 1pt difference per hit? Or does the weight factor in allowing a lighter weapon to hit more frequently so while it may be a -1 in listed damage; per five hits you may actually get another full damage register; in return making it a better weapon for multiple hit battles.
[/blockquote] your explanation makes sense, I just put that whoever wants to claim it should get clarification from your comment
Legion said:at a glance it looks awesome! Gonna get to reading it right now, great work Legion!Done, with limited success but interesting implications nonetheless.
http://tamrielvault.com/groups/topic/view/group_id/13/topic_id/8839/post_id/105462
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Legion]Legion[/url] said:[/b]
Done, with limited success but interesting implications nonetheless.
http://tamrielvault.com/groups/topic/view/group_id/13/topic_id/8839/post_id/105462
[/blockquote] at a glance it looks awesome! Gonna get to reading it right now, great work Legion!
I have a case for you guys, and this one is about my favorite faction in the Fallout series. I would like to know a couple of things about Caesar's Legion.
1) How many people did the Legion start with originally?
2) Who were the original tribes they took over or made a truce with the Legion?
3) How far does the Legion stretch?
4) How did they learn Latin?
I have a case for you guys, and this one is about my favorite faction in the Fallout series. I would like to know a couple of things about Caesar's Legion.
1) How many people did the Legion start with originally?
2) Who were the original tribes they took over or made a truce with the Legion?
3) How far does the Legion stretch?
4) How did they learn Latin?
David said:I have a case for you guys, and this one is about my favorite faction in the Fallout series. I would like to know a couple of things about Caesar's Legion.
1) How many people did the Legion start with originally?
2) Who were the original tribes they took over or made a truce with the Legion?
3) How far does the Legion stretch?
4) How did they learn Latin?
DIBS. I'm all over this one.
[blockquote][b][url=/profile/ErikUlfrblod]David[/url] said:[/b]
I have a case for you guys, and this one is about my favorite faction in the Fallout series. I would like to know a couple of things about Caesar's Legion.
1) How many people did the Legion start with originally?
2) Who were the original tribes they took over or made a truce with the Legion?
3) How far does the Legion stretch?
4) How did they learn Latin?
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DIBS. I'm all over this one.