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Official Thread Of CHIM

  • Member
    August 2, 2015
    You aren't trying to throw out the "oldest is most accurate" are you? Lol... But that's OK. Complicated or simple is not relevant. I was explaining to you what the concepts revolve around. You not understanding isn't an issue to what the concept describes.
  • August 2, 2015
    Done.
  • Member
    August 2, 2015

    Lol  Come on man, I was enjoying watching this.

  • Member
    August 2, 2015

    Ok, so let's add this little quote from Henson to the list of resources we can use to summarise for the sake of those not familiar with the idea of the Godhead:

    ...realization is how one would be able to realize everything is one, all past and present and future, and how one is part of it as not necessarily an idividual, but the ability to say "I am" is the key part. Maintaining this identity with the realization you are part of one "entity" as a whole.

    Let's compare that to Aka in Eat the Dreamer (another MK oog book referenced in game for those who are keeping track):

    The Aedroth Aka, who goes by so many names as to perhaps already suggest what I'm about to commit to memospore, is completely insane. His mind broke when his "perch from Eternity allowed the day" and we of all the Aurbis live on through its fragments, ensnared in the temporal writings and erasures of the acausal whim that he begat by saying "I AM". In the aetheric thunder of self-applause that followed (nay, rippled until convention, that is, amnesia), is it any wonder that the Time God would hate the same-twin on the other end of the aurbrilical cord, the Space God? That any Creation would become so utterly dangerous because of that singular fear of a singular word's addition: "I AM NOT"?

    This I am and I am not dichotomy goes right the way back to the beginning, with Anu and Padomay then Anuiel and Sithis as seen in the monomyth:

    "Anu encompassed, and encompasses, all things. So that he might know himself he created Anuiel, his soul and the soul of all things. Anuiel, as all souls, was given to self-reflection, and for this he needed to differentiate between his forms, attributes, and intellects. Thus was born Sithis, who was the sum of all the limitations Anuiel would utilize to ponder himself. Anuiel, who was the soul of all things, therefore became many things, and this interplay was and is the Aurbis.

    "As he entered every aspect of Anuiel, Lorkhan would plant an idea that was almost wholly based on limitation. He outlined a plan to create a soul for the Aurbis, a place where the aspects of aspects might even be allowed to self-reflect. He gained many followers; even Auriel, when told he would become the king of the new world, agreed to help Lorkhan. So they created the Mundus, where their own aspects might live, and became the et'Ada.

    "But this was a trick."

    Then we can see the purpose of Lorkhan's trick by looking at the Psijic Endeavour: 

    The world you stand on is said to be the first attempt at CHIM. It is also admittedly the most famous. That it was choreographed by Lorkhan and ultimately failed is well-documented, but whether or not this failure was intentional is still disputed.

    Wait. Why would anyone want to purposely fail the process of CHIM?

    And this is the most-reached destination of all that embark upon this road. Why would Lorkhan and his (unwitting?) agents sabotage their experiments with the Tower? Why would he crumble that which he esteems?

    Perhaps he failed so you might know how not to.

  • Member
    August 3, 2015
    It's like, you're a computer program, you realize the world you are in is some else's creation. You then say you are your own person, and you Niger become. Just another cog in this creation program.
  • Member
    August 3, 2015
    Solopism is apparently. A belief system
  • Member
    August 3, 2015

    True that. Except how do you know for sure? 

  • Member
    August 3, 2015

    I meant how do you know for sure it doesn't think, but I get your point. Almost literally. 

    This is all very theoretical but the reality is that if I get my a rock it'll hurt, whether I think it exists or not. 

    I'm just upset no-one else wanted to talk about the Matrix. Also every time I come here I keep seeing Dick van Dyke dancing on the rooftops of London with a bunch of sooty men. And I can't get that song out of my head

  • August 3, 2015

    Are you saying that that an all-powerful Godhead is not capable of having a dream like that?

  • Member
    August 3, 2015

    If dreams can make real people then there must be a helluva lot of Kate Uptons around. Just sayin'