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The Ancient Nordic Pantheon

  • December 31, 2015

    Sorry for being a naggy Thalmor bitch here too, but I just can't help it. Why Ysmir and Talos suddenly are in the Ancient Nordic Pantheon??? They both lived in 2E, that's not really ancient, or did I again miss something? And there does this place Orkey?..

  • December 31, 2015

    I shall keep my naughty pantheon then. Straag Rod is not Straag Rod without its awful sex jokes. 

  • Member
    December 31, 2015

    The Fox God doesn't always represent Talos, the ninth divine has changed from person to person. The ones I know of are:

    Pelinal Whitestrake

    Hans the Fox

    Talos/Tiber Septim

  • Member
    December 31, 2015

    Oh and as for Ysmir, Ysmir is a title, not an actual person.

    The title has belonged to:

    Wulfharth

    Pelinal Whitestrake

    Talos/Tiber Septim

    The Last Dragonborn

  • December 31, 2015

    As most of those are Shezzarines, it seems like Ysmir is the title that people gave a person they thought to be a Shezzarine, i.e. incarnation of Lorkhan... It means that this Pantheon has 2 Lorkhans. Either the fox is not really Ysmir, or the ancient Nords were very illogical guys...

  • December 31, 2015

    I like your pantheon) It didn't scream "something's off here" at me when I read that part)

  • Member
    December 31, 2015

  • December 31, 2015

    I make reference to Shor being a snake in Part 2 though and there is also this line from my TOC. Though in Part 4, you can see that Aelberon has done some research and now wonders if Shor is a Fox as he's since learned about Orkey. Darn student of Theology, always probing. I don't really mind getting it wrong on some counts. From a character standpoint, I think they can't know everything. Even my dragons don't know everything. They know a lot but not everything. 

  • December 31, 2015

    Well... if this is the real answer to that, I'm going to be really disappointed. But hope dies the last))

  • December 31, 2015

    I think it's totally OK.

    However, I want to know the right answer. Two versions of Lorkhan in one pantheon don't make sence to me. The story with Ysgramor and Hermaeus Mora makes me think that the right Lorkhan would be the fox, but I've seen him called a snake too.