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  • Member
    July 28, 2017

    The Last Blade said:

    I mean get what you are saying and I get your point, but even then it seems like Auri-El should have been a Mage instead of an Archer. I get that the Bosmer are great with a Bow, but it seems like that only became that way once they left for the main land. So by large Elven society was built on Magic in a sense. I don't know because TES never gives us direct answers. 

    Auriel hasn't been said to use magic, and if he was a mage why would he have a bow? He could have been either but the fact that he has a bow proves that he was indeed and archer.

    As for the Bosmer they likely found Valenwood and moved in there because the environment suited their natural talents, not the other way around, that's just asking to go extinct. I can imagine the first Bosmer colonists (if you can call them that) carrying bows in their hands on their way into their soon-to-be forest home.

     

  • July 28, 2017

    Ebonslayer said:

    The Last Blade said:

    I mean get what you are saying and I get your point, but even then it seems like Auri-El should have been a Mage instead of an Archer. I get that the Bosmer are great with a Bow, but it seems like that only became that way once they left for the main land. So by large Elven society was built on Magic in a sense. I don't know because TES never gives us direct answers. 

    Auriel hasn't been said to use magic, and if he was a mage why would he have a bow? He could have been either but the fact that he has a bow proves that he was indeed and archer.

    As for the Bosmer they likely found Valenwood and moved in there because the environment suited their natural talents, not the other way around, that's just asking to go extinct. I can imagine the first Bosmer colonists (if you can call them that) carrying bows in their hands on their way into their soon-to-be forest home.

    Actually, I have figured out why Auri-El had a bow. Thanks for all the help. :)

     

  • Member
    August 4, 2017
    Where do the souls of all beings go on death? I know that captured and used ones go to the Soulcairn but where does the rest go?

    Thanks in advance.
  • Member
    August 4, 2017

    Relycs said: Where do the souls of all beings go on death? I know that captured and used ones go to the Soulcairn but where does the rest go?

    Thanks in advance.

    It depends on the interpretation and the allegiance of the individual but in normal scenarios, the souls either end up in a cultural "paradise" such as Sovngarde or are sent to Aetherius (Dreamsleeve). People that pledge their soul to a daedra tend to end up in Oblivion in some form or other.

    For Argonians it's a bit obscure but it is generally accepted that they reincarnate after passing through the Hist.

    We recently discussed a lot of this in more detail when we approached the essence of water in July's monthly Lore discussion (which you can find here:http://tamrielvault.com/groups/topic/view/group_id/1/topic_id/8984) and in Phil's recent article: http://tamrielvault.com/groups/topic/view/group_id/1/topic_id/8964 

  • Member
    August 4, 2017

    Relycs said:

    Where do the souls of all beings go on death? I know that captured and used ones go to the Soulcairn but where does the rest go?

    Thanks in advance.

    Assuming no daedric intervention there's a few places. Nords usually go to Sovngarde upon death, argonians are said to return to the Hist and be reborn into the shell of a newborn argonian upon ingestion of Hist sap, and I believe elves go through the Dreamsleeve, I'm not sure about imperials, redguards and khajiit.

     

  • Member
    August 4, 2017

    Redguards also have the Far Shores, and Khajiit have the Sands Beyond the Stars or something similar. EDIT: And Orcs have the Ashen Forge, which is supposedly in Malacath's realm.

  • Member
    August 4, 2017
    Thanks a lot for all the replies. :) Really helps me out.
  • August 4, 2017

    Hello people, I really need some assistance from the more knowledgeable scholars of the lore group. In a build I 'm planning to post I would like to take elements from Redguard / Yokudan tradition regarding their war / warrior history with all the sword - singers thing going on. So what I would like to know is anything that has to do with the lore regarding the Hall of Virtues of War, the sword - singers and the warrior culture of the Redguards. Any help is greatly appreciated since my time is very limited due to work.

    Thanks.

  • Member
    August 4, 2017

    Duvain said:

    Hello people, I really need some assistance from the more knowledgeable scholars of the lore group. In a build I 'm planning to post I would like to take elements from Redguard / Yokudan tradition regarding their war / warrior history with all the sword - singers thing going on. So what I would like to know is anything that has to do with the lore regarding the Hall of Virtues of War, the sword - singers and the warrior culture of the Redguards. Any help is greatly appreciated since my time is very limited due to work.

    Thanks.

    I was doing something like this very recently, my build is basically the resurrection of Frandar Hunding due to the return of Alduin. I can easily answer the Sword-Singers part. The Sword-Singers were elite warriors who lived in the Yokudan deserts where "only those of iron will and spirit shall survive." The greatest of these legendary swordsmen were called the Ansei, who practiced the art of Shehai, or "Way of the Spirit Sword". These masters didn't need a physical blade, instead they were able to create swords of unimaginable power through their willpower alone.

    At one point someone by the name of Randic Torn was trying to become the Emperor of the Yokudan Empire through force, he thought the Sword-Singers would be a problem and sent armies into the desert to hunt them down, this event was known as "Torn's Sword Hunt". This event almost drove the Sword-Singers to extinction, that is until the greatest Ansei of his time, Frandar Hunding, came to their aid, creating the "Army Of The Circle". Hunding led his army through the desert and fought seven battles, all of which were won against a vastly superior force. In the end only a few thousand Sword-Singers remained but none of Torn's army was left alive. Randic's army was crippled and Hunding siezed this opportuinty to escape, together he and the remaining Singers sailed far away to a new land, they called this place Hammerfell for the legendary "hammer and anvil" tactic used by Hunding during the seventh battle and planned since the first.

  • August 5, 2017

    @Ebonslayer - Thanks for the reply!

    Also sorry but I should have been a bit more specific in my previous comment, what I 'm most interested in is any mention regarding the beliefs the sword singers had as warriors and what were the "ways" followed by the Hall of the Virtues of War if there is any mention into this subject like in in game books and such.

    Thanks.


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