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[blockquote][b][url=/profile/ChrisDiokno1]Chris[/url] said:[/b]

So, aside from possibly Hermaeus Mora, are there any other gods or spirits connected to water?

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I don't think even Mora is connected to water. He is the god of knowledge, which I don't think has anything to do with water.

To answer the question, I'd say Kynareth is the closest thing you got since she is the Goddess of nature and water seems natural enough.

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[blockquote][b][url=/profile/ChrisDiokno1]Chris[/url] said:[/b]

So, aside from possibly Hermaeus Mora, are there any other gods or spirits connected to water?

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[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Paws]Paws[/url] said:[/b]

So the Kyne's tears and Kynreth's rain is spot on, also we have associations with water in the form of Stendarr's horn and chalice, Mara's Everflow Ewer from Knightfall, and even the Forgotten Vale quests in which you need to fill the vessel at each shrine. 

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I'm sure that Paws knows this but to clarify for Chris, the deity associated with the Forgotten Vale quest is Auri-El (Auriel), the Elven variant of Akatosh. The Initiates Ewer needs to be filled at each of the Wayshrines in the Forgotten Vale where a ghostly Prelate is found at each Wayshrine. These Snow Elves were once priests of Auri-El who guided initiates to the Inner Sanctum within the Chantry of Auri-El.

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[blockquote][b][url=/profile/GailOlmstead]GailOlm[/url] said:[/b]

I'm sure that Paws knows this but to clarify for Chris, the deity associated with the Forgotten Vale quest is Auri-El (Auriel), the Elven variant of Akatosh. The Initiates Ewer needs to be filled at each of the Wayshrines in the Forgotten Vale where a ghostly Prelate is found at each Wayshrine. These Snow Elves were once priests of Auri-El who guided initiates to the Inner Sanctum within the Chantry of Auri-El.

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I think what makes it interesting is that in order to see these long-dead priests, we must already have used the ewer at least once. If we factor in that water is memory, could it be said that we are not so much following in the footsteps of an old tradition, but actually bringing memories to life? The symbolism of water and life is readily apparent, but there are layers that I find fascinating here. If we look at Stendarr's symbols of the horn and chalice, and look at the connections he has with the psychopomp gods Xarxes, Arkay, and Tu'whacca, as well as his relationship with Tsun and Trinimac... water and death seem to be connected in quite a deep way!

Is it possible, centuries after ESO, that the Aedric spirits you meet, such as the fallen Serpent constellation, to be "alive" and kicking in the 4th Era?

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/ChrisDiokno1]Chris[/url] said:[/b]

I knew that

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That's good. :) Since the Dawnguard quest line is in the DLC, I'm never sure if people have played it or not so I err on the side of caution.

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/Paws]Paws[/url] said:[/b]

I think what makes it interesting is that in order to see these long-dead priests, we must already have used the ewer at least once. If we factor in that water is memory, could it be said that we are not so much following in the footsteps of an old tradition, but actually bringing memories to life? The symbolism of water and life is readily apparent, but there are layers that I find fascinating here. If we look at Stendarr's symbols of the horn and chalice, and look at the connections he has with the psychopomp gods Xarxes, Arkay, and Tu'whacca, as well as his relationship with Tsun and Trinimac... water and death seem to be connected in quite a deep way!

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I'm fairly new to Skyrim (having played since December 2016) and don't yet know much about Elder Scrolls lore, including the deities and their relationships with one another. However, the possibility of the Initiate's Ewer (after it's first use in Darkfall Cave) being used to bring memories to life sounds intriguing!

"A pack of Orcs had stolen some gold from a local chieftain in Meditea, and I went looking for them in one of the ubiquitous dungeons that dot the countryside in that region." -Words and Philosophy

I'm trying to figure out where Meditea might be. I'm assuming it's in Hammerfell for several reasons.

1. Southern Hammerfell is one of two regions mentioned when the narrator, Allena Benoch, talks about her adventuring days.
2. The mention of a chieftain (and obviously the Orc raiders themselves) leads me to believe all involved were Orcs, which were more common in Hammerfell than most provinces, including Valenwood, which was the other region mentioned by Benoch.
3. Alternatively, if the chieftain and company weren't Orcs, only the raiders, I find it more likely for 'chieftain' to be a Redguard title than a Breton one (High Rock being the other province with an Orc problem).

However, a possible point against it: This would take place within years of Nova Orsinium being founded in 3E 399 since Benoch fought against the Parikh Tribe in 3E 396 and her adventuring days were at least a year or two later, possibly more. Why I think this matters: If Orsinium was just founded, I think most Orcs would migrate to it. Nova Orsinium is closer to High Rock, if I remember right, so the Orc presence would be higher there.

What do you guys think?

*Also why does Allena Benoch's card in Elder Scrolls Legends depict her with a bow? I know she was a Jacspur/long-distance shooter in her teenage years, but come on, she's like *the* warrior. "Close the distance and hit 'im hard," you know?

Meditea, Meditea. Sounds more Redguardy than Bretony to me. 

But when it comes to raiding Orcs...well, there are basicaly two places they can come from. Dragontail Mountains of northern Hammerfell and Wrothgarian Mountains of northern High Rock. Now Orsinium was founded in Wrothgar and that particular city was built quite close to Illiac Bay, which means southern end of Wrothgarian. 

Meditea. How do you pronounce it? Like tea? That almost sounds fucked up like glade goblins to me lol :D Hmm. But can we with certainty exclude the possibility of Valenwood? I mean, ESO is actually trying really hard to portray a strong presence of Wood Orcs in Valenwood.

Also, another possibility could be that this chieftain and the tribe were also Bosmer. Because Bosmer have both as far as I remember. 

[blockquote][b][url=/profile/KarverTheLorc]The Lorc of Flowers[/url] said:[/b]

Meditea. How do you pronounce it? Like tea? That almost sounds fucked up like glade goblins to me lol :D Hmm. But can we with certainty exclude the possibility of Valenwood? I mean, ESO is actually trying really hard to portray a strong presence of Wood Orcs in Valenwood.

Also, another possibility could be that this chieftain and the tribe were also Bosmer. Because Bosmer have both as far as I remember. 

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Words and Philosophy is the only place that mentions Meditea, so I doubt we'll ever get the pronunciation for it. I haven't played much of ESO, but if Orcs have at least somewhat of a presence in Valenwood, then I think that pushes it to the top of the list. Yeah, I'm gonna roll with that. Thanks, Karver.

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[blockquote][b][url=/profile/KarverTheLorc]The Lorc of Flowers[/url] said:[/b]

Meditea. How do you pronounce it? Like tea? That almost sounds fucked up like glade goblins to me lol :D Hmm. But can we with certainty exclude the possibility of Valenwood? I mean, ESO is actually trying really hard to portray a strong presence of Wood Orcs in Valenwood.

Also, another possibility could be that this chieftain and the tribe were also Bosmer. Because Bosmer have both as far as I remember. 

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Words and Philosophy is the only place that mentions Meditea, so I doubt we'll ever get the pronunciation for it. I haven't played much of ESO, but if Orcs have at least somewhat of a presence in Valenwood, then I think that pushes it to the top of the list. Yeah, I'm gonna roll with that. Thanks, Karver.

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I think that each "part" of Valenwood had at least three Wood Orcs tribes. Maybe even more, considering they are sort of like Cyrodiil´s goblins or something. I just have this memory of running into Wood Orcs pretty much everywhere in Valenwood. 

It does sound Elvis, doesn't it? "Uh huh." Med-i-taya is how i have been saying it, something with an Ayleid ring.