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  • April 27, 2017

    I wouldn't say repuplic since The Redoran family is the main power. My guess would be that all or most of the other "lower" Houses left house Redoran to do their things since they need Morrowind to recover from all the calamities that found it and that is quite a hard work. Also my guess for the Telvanni house from what we also learn from Neloth is that they should have laid low for now and just observe, they are after all the Wizard Lords of Morrowind and not all but many of them didn't even care about power or authority but just for research and magic (in any case I would say that the house with the most chances of survival in a mass destruction scenario would be Telvanni magic solves many problems :P). At the moment most of the things going on in Morrowind should be under the "control" of House Redoran and they probably along with the other Houses (maybe not all of them) try to recover Morrowind's state of affairs.

     

    From that I don't think you can call it a republic because the Dunmer in general don't get to chose who will be the boss but the ones with the most power rule and make the decissions.

    I 'm not that well informed regarding Morrowind because I only played Oblivion and Skyrim if I made any mistakes apologies and do correct me.

  • April 27, 2017

    Teineeva said:

    Veloth the Prophet said:

    Since King Hlaalu Helseth is gone now, would Morrowind be considered a republic?

    I doubt that. First of all it's extremely unlikely he didn't have an heir in place or seeing the fact his House fell from glory I think one of the other houses must have stepped in and presented an heir after Helseth's presumed death. Most likely Redoran seeing they safed Morrowind from the Argonians.

    A second scenario would be that Morrowind is now an Oligarchy, which is what I think is most likely to happen if the monarchy is ended. This would basically be a system where the leaders of each house or a representative chosen by them govern the country together. They could certainly call it a republic but seeing those tend to have a single chief of state who holds executive power, it wouldn't entirely fit.

    If by republic you meant democracy, I would say; not likely to happen... ever. Democracies are built on the idea that citizens are equal in rights and therefore get to decide political affairs. I doubt any house would really think of the others as "equals", especially the Telvanni.

    Anyway, the death of a king doesn't means a country is going to become a republic system. As I said at the start; there will always be a heir somewhere. Hell, even when there weren't any in the case of the Septim Dynasty; other political groups will creep into the power vacuum before most of the population even starts thinking of a democracy.

     

    Well, I assume it doesn't matter if he had an heir since the only reason that a monarchy existed in Morrowind was because the Empire installed one and since they have now pulled out, the Grand Council would likely dissolve it. Especially after Hlaalu's fall from grace.

    Well, that's pretty much how Morrowind and Resdayn used to be governed. A Grand Council made up of the heads of each Great House and sometimes united under a Hortator who would have to be sanctioned by each Great House. They even had councillors whose job was to bring the needs of the citizens to the ruling class.   

  • April 27, 2017

    Hi, I'm curious about a Dunmer city called Blacklight where Teldryn Sero is from. I know it was a Redoran city. If anyone knows how it was and looked liked? If there are any pictures somewhere. It might help the story I'm going to write later on. So anything about Blacklight, and if it still standing after the Red Mountain eruption? :)

  • April 27, 2017

    Blacklight is the greatest city and the capital of Morrowind at the moment. It became the capital after the invasion from the Argonians to give you a brief description.

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    April 27, 2017

    Caladran said:

    Hi, I'm curious about a Dunmer city called Blacklight where Teldryn Sero is from. I know it was a Redoran city. If anyone knows how it was and looked liked? If there are any pictures somewhere. It might help the story I'm going to write later on. So anything about Blacklight, and if it still standing after the Red Mountain eruption? :)

    It is most certainly still standing as it is, as Duvain mentions, the capital of the old imperial province now that Mournhold and Vivec have been ravaged by the Argonians and the Red Mountain/Ministery of truth respectively.

    I don't know much about the city itself so I'll have to go look into that for a bit (I suggest you take a dive into the imperial library as well, always does wonders to have multiple perspectives on the stuff you find). What I do know however is that this is where the Grand council of Morrowind resides as of the events of Skyrim, which means that as you might expect from the capital it is also the seat of Morrowind's political power.

    Another thing you'll have to keep in mind when you consider this fact is that if there's a council seating all the Dunmer houses there will be delegations of each of those houses present in the city at all times. If this is indeed the case, I would suggest that as a writer you consider what would happen if you put a bunch of very ambitious Dunmer (you know those guys who worship Boethiah and Mephala) of different political factions in the same spot, especially seeing they usually tend to just stick to their own cities or districts. Could be very interesting, especially if you're into stabbing backs.

    Anyway, I'll have a quick look as soon as I have some time on my hands. See what I find and if possible see what you think of it. I do like a good writing/lore discussion. It's how I got this job I think :D.

  • April 27, 2017

    Thank you, Duvain. Much appreciated.

    Teineeva said:

    It is most certainly still standing as it is, as Duvain mentions, the capital of the old imperial province now that Mournhold and Vivec have been ravaged by the Argonians and the Red Mountain/Ministery of truth respectively.

    I don't know much about the city itself so I'll have to go look into that for a bit (I suggest you take a dive into the imperial library as well, always does wonders to have multiple perspectives on the stuff you find). What I do know however is that this is where the Grand council of Morrowind resides as of the events of Skyrim, which means that as you might expect from the capital it is also the seat of Morrowind's political power.

    Another thing you'll have to keep in mind when you consider this fact is that if there's a council seating all the Dunmer houses there will be delegations of each of those houses present in the city at all times. If this is indeed the case, I would suggest that as a writer you consider what would happen if you put a bunch of very ambitious Dunmer (you know those guys who worship Boethiah and Mephala) of different political factions in the same spot, especially seeing they usually tend to just stick to their own cities or districts. Could be very interesting, especially if you're into stabbing backs.

    Anyway, I'll have a quick look as soon as I have some time on my hands. See what I find and if possible see what you think of it. I do like a good writing/lore discussion. It's how I got this job I think :D.

     

    Thank you for reply. I'll check Imperial Library! Oh no, I'm not going into Dunmer politics at all (not good with them). The story would be about Teldryn Sero taking my Dunmer Ciel'nn to visit Blacklight, as Ciel'nn wants to see it. They'd spend some time there, that's why I asked some description. I also found some modded pictures through reddit, I guess it's ok to use them as reference.

    I'm thankful for any information. :)

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    May 11, 2017

    So I got thinking about Phil's post in the 'Your Own Deities' thread in Roleplaying.

     

    Phil said:

    If a character blieved that and was on a crusade to spread the holy word, even the lowliest rabbit (it could be argued) could potentially be elevated into a greater spirit on par with Akatosh. That is reductionism, but for the sake of contributng to this thread, there it is :D

     

    Could this idea explain the changes in gods, for example Trinimac - Malacath? Ie the Aldmer were convinced Trinimac had changed and started worshipping Malacath, so either Trinimac morphed into his new percieved appearance or a new being was born in his place(assuming that him being eaten is a metaphor, which I've always assumed it was). I've never really been happy with Malacath's story so I'm kinda hoping this is the case.

     

  • May 11, 2017
    Trinimac/Malacath metamorphosis isn't exactly the first stop I would pick with this topic. That one is little bit more than complicated. But let's look at something more simple, yeah? Belief matters in TES, especially boosted by Towers and Stones among other things. So let's take a look at Auriel, Akatosh and Alkosh. Basicaly one god, but because different races see him differently, they worship him differently, Auriel is splitted into other two gods. Each one is real, even though there is only one god. Split personalities if you want. So yeah, belief matters. In theory, if enough people shouted "NO!" loud enough and believed it with all their souls they could unmake the world. But don't tell that to Thalmor, alright?
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    May 11, 2017

    Karver the Lorc said: Trinimac/Malacath metamorphosis isn't exactly the first stop I would pick with this topic. That one is little bit more than complicated. But let's look at something more simple, yeah? Belief matters in TES, especially boosted by Towers and Stones among other things. So let's take a look at Auriel, Akatosh and Alkosh. Basicaly one god, but because different races see him differently, they worship him differently, Auriel is splitted into other two gods. Each one is real, even though there is only one god. Split personalities if you want. So yeah, belief matters. In theory, if enough people shouted "NO!" loud enough and believed it with all their souls they could unmake the world. But don't tell that to Thalmor, alright?

    Thanks for clearing that up Karv, I picked Malacath on a whim really, couldn't think of a better example at the time, but this is much more clear.

  • May 11, 2017
    No problem, mate. If you'll be still interested in the Trinimac/Malacath thing I recommend you to find "The State of Trinimac" on Imperial Library. Could give you a different perspective on that matter.

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