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  • March 17, 2016
    Does a game absolutely have to have build potential to get people talking about it here? Isn't it good enough to get good conversations going about games that are popular here?
  • Member
    March 17, 2016

    I agree.  There's a game I've been playing for over 6 years.  It's open sandbox style and constantly in "beta development" as the developer never quits adding features to the game.  Not a "graphics" game as it's done in ASCII but a very cool and in depth game that I haven't seen anywhere else to be honest.  But there are no character builds but each character in the game is unique with it's own history and background.  I don't discuss it because it doesn't have builds but a very popular game.

  • March 17, 2016

    I think general gaming wont become big without free, no-pay-to-win/play-games (additional content like weapons or whatever could still be bought with real money, without being necessary because they could be farmed too). 

    Unfortunetly...Most MMO's are either pay-to-win or pay-to-play-before-2025, the ones that aren't pay-to-win, solve that by the game being tediously long without paying (As in, 20 hours of grinding per 2 hours of questing)...And, honestly a lot aren't that suited to Building in the first place..

    A lot of MMO's I've played, are built off of fairly restrictive systems, your never going to get an MMO where you can freely create some interesting classes, because most of them have certain sets that are the only viable sets. And in an MMO viability is the most important thing... 

    But you can go ahead and post builds for them anyway...I don't get this idea that people have had (Both in here and in other discussions) that they can't just post content...If you think that's the direction we should go, post some builds for games.

    The Gaming Corner, doesn't have a set bunch of games we accept or promote, we only have people interested in a few, and the only way that will change is if the members put effort in. I've seen people ask if we could do this or that, and the answer is always if you want it, make it happen. 

    I'm not going to set the group in the direction of a single type of game, because we allow and promote all games that can be logically discussed within the fields of the group (Character Builds, Roleplaying Profiles/Discussion, Lore and Tips and Tricks).

  • Tim
    Member
    March 17, 2016

    I'll be adding a few discussions about different games soon, hopefully tonight. I dunno if anybody is interested in them, but I guess we'll see :D

  • March 17, 2016

    Does a game absolutely have to have build potential to get people talking about it here?

    No...And I'll quote from the front page

    The Gaming Corner is a place to create content for games that aren't covered by other groups (Mass Effect, Fallout and Elder Scrolls). Content is divided into Character Building, Lore, Roleplaying Discussions and Profiles, and Tips and Tricks

    Does anyone read the front page... or anything in the group.

    I've made it clear multiple times that we don't just do builds, I've made it clear that we don't cater towards a single game, but to all games, but if people want games they'll need to post them.

    The Gaming Corner is separate from the Forums...One of the biggest complaints I've heard about changing the direction of the site, was that nobody wanted it to turn into an IGN sort of situation, and that's what random discussions would help do.

    If people want to discuss a game, then it'll either need a focus within the group, for instance I could start a Dishonored discussion with a focus on the Lore, but not just "Do you like Dishonored", that would go in the Forums.

    But I will note that I'm not that strict about it, the discussion can be very loosely tied to one of these, but as long as it is tied it's alright. 

  • March 17, 2016

    I just posted this Tim, figured it'd be helpful if I pointed it out 

    If people want to discuss a game, then it'll either need a focus within the group, for instance I could start a Dishonored discussion with a focus on the Lore, but not just "Do you like Dishonored", that would go in the Forums.

  • March 17, 2016

    For your information we did read the damn thing....

    Its just when the phrase "build potential" is thrown around so often, people can't help but assume the gaming corner is heavily geared towards builds, to the exclusion of essentially everything else. 

    How difficult would it be to simply merge the gaming forum with the gaming corner? Now that I think of it, it makes little sense to separate them.

    Its obvious builds for games outside of skyrim and fo4 arent really going to take off here, and thats ok. Besides, if a game proved popular enough to build a large enough following of builders it would no doubt be split from GC and given its own group. 

    My point is, rather than kill ourselves trying to find the next big game with build potential to rival skyrim, lets simply gear this group towards game discussions. If people want to share a build, sure let them. 

  • Member
    March 17, 2016
    I'll talk about whatever, but that's the bread and butter, no? I've read the front, I know we can talk about any game. But based on that poll over on the upper right most people are here for builds. I don't see a game without ways to customize a play through getting as much traffic here as a game that does. If we're gonna chastise people for not reading the main page, maybe I should do the same for people not reading what I said. Again, the groups will be smaller here for the most part, but you never know, maybe the next lightning in a bottle game that has some elements that made Skyrim so popular will come out and activity here will explode.
  • March 17, 2016

    My proposal does no harm to anyone who wishes to share their latest general gaming build. All Im suggesting is a way improve the traffic in this group. Its entirely possible for this place to house both builds and general discussions (why gaming discussions are sitting off in their own separate forum, I dont even know...)

    You should be aware that by character building groups, we mean fallout and skyrim. Those builds, particularly skyrim builds, are the main draw to this site. People arent exactly coming here in droves to check out the latest KOTOR or DA:I builds. And that's ok. 

    DB, you don't have to follow the model set by Skyrim Character Building to make this group successful. Forge your own path here, man. 

  • March 17, 2016

    My point is, rather than kill ourselves trying to find the next big game with build potential to rival skyrim

    That's not what the group is about at all...I'm not gearing this up to cater towards a big game, or games but to allow people to post their own content for any game that they want. If we were trying to find a big game in here, we wouldn't allow all games in.

    people can't help but assume the gaming corner is heavily geared towards builds,

    I won't say it isn't...The Gaming Corner is heavy geared towards Builds, no doubt about it, that's what people have shown interest in, that's what people are posting. So yes, naturally the group is geared towards it, but that's simply because that's what the members are interested in.

     Now that I think of it, it makes little sense to separate them.

    My proposal does no harm to anyone who wishes to share their latest general gaming build. Its entirely possible for this place to house both builds and general discussions

    DB, you don't have to follow the model set by Skyrim Character Building to make this group successful. Forge your own path here, man

    Let me explain these comments... First, yes it does make sense, and since this flows into the next comment, yes it would be nearly impossible for people to still have Building content with a General Forum going on.

    Keeping them separate is the only way building can work, if we moved the Forums in, then it would overcrowd the group with a tonne of discussions, these discussions would cover the builds up massively... You could easily pump out a discussion to do with General Gaming every day of the week, it wouldn't be hard and we could all do it, and in turn that would restrict builds which really for most games takes a minimum of a month, maybe more.

    Your proposal of moving this content in, would be impossible for builds to actually surface, sure we've got tags, but a majority of likes, comments, views or whatever comes from people seeing it on the front page, or in the group itself, with Forum content, that would be harder than ever.

    Take the Citadel as an example, it's a combined Forums Discussion - Building group, and the discussions crush the builds under them, 30 of the 38 discussions appear to be just general discussions, and those are the ones where the comments, views, etc. go. And yes, 9 of the top 10 discussions are general discussions

    Imagine that scale, multiplied by the number of games we allow here (Well, even a portion of the ones we currently have content for), there would be no way in hell for Building to properly kick off here, and although I don't have numbers to prove it, every General Gaming Group we've had is similar (I believe we had a good 3 or so builds in the Bonfire, but I know that at times it was fairly busy).

    So...Yes it would harm the Building part of the group, which although it isn't the only focus of the group, it is the major one, regardless of how I've pitched it.

    As for your last comment, I'm really only taking bits and pieces from Character Building, I'm modeling it more off of my views on the other Gaming Groups, and I think that the General Discussions are what brought them down.