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Lore Article: The Shezarrine

  • Tom
    Member
    March 15, 2015

    Why don't you investigate my sources?

  • Tom
    Member
    March 15, 2015

    Talos is not Lorkhan. Talos is really, really weird. There has never been an individual that was both Sehzzarine and Dragonborn. Talos is a merger of three souls. LDB is one mortal (not even entirely sure if he's human, and Shezzarine have always been human) with the soul of a dragon.

    Fighting in the Civil War isn't a demonstration of being a Champion of Men. The Civil War means nothing in the grand scale. It's a petty quarrel between humans. Shezzarine fight for humanity's existence and freedom against elves and their gods, not the freedom of some humans against some other humans.

    The Thalmor unmaking everything isn't canon either.

  • March 15, 2015
    "Yamir, the Dragon of the North, the Nordic name for kings." Guess he was Dragonborn then. He shares the title with LDB and Tiber.
  • March 15, 2015
    It was just a question. Calm down.
  • Member
    March 15, 2015

    Not necessarily, since it is just a nickname.

  • March 15, 2015
    If they Greybeards speak to call you that, it's not just a "nickname".
  • Member
    March 15, 2015

    Title, nickname ... Just a label for a specific kind of character.

  • Tom
    Member
    March 15, 2015

    I wasn't? Most of the questions you ask, and repeatedly ask, could be answered easily if you take Phil and I's advice and actually read the source books.

  • Member
    March 15, 2015

    Ysmir, not Yamir. And I second Phil's thoughts. The in game books are easily one of the best pars  of the games

  • March 17, 2015

    There seems to be some logical inconsistency. I may, however, just be missing something from the lore.

    The Shezzarine and the Dovahkiin seem to be synonymous. These are but different cultural names for the same archetype. And most importantly, all of these titles (Dragonborn, Shezzarine, Nerevarine, etc.) all are culturally bound. In other words, these 'gods' are epochal. Their personal powers and attributes are only manifest and visible in a specific cultural context. For example, 'Shezzarine fight for humanity's existence,' only makes the most sense for the Imperials, and only to them 'the fight for existence' depends on the nature of Shezzar. In other words, he is a symbol for what Cyrodiil and the Empire is as a civilization, and what it collectively was inspired to become.