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Lore Discussion: Nords, Mercenaries of Skyrim

  • Member
    April 6, 2016

    Maybe some of the Companions joined the Stormcloaks? Especially if they wanted a more honorable cause to pledge themselves to, given that the Companions guild does seem more interested in coin than honor when The Last Dragonborn first meets and joins up with them.

    So that might explain why there aren't a ton of them (besides general game mechanics xD).

    Here's a scary thought! Let's be glad there's no Fighters Guild in Riften, eh? Something tells me Maven Black-Briar would use them even more than the Dark Brotherhood she supposedly has ties to.

    Maybe the game should have included a Fighters Guild, though. It would explain the random thugs that beat you up if you steal from a certain NPC. Explain where they came from.

  • Member
    April 6, 2016

    If you're thinking about mercenaries in skyrim and comparing them to the Companions it's worth comparing the origin of the Companions to the origins of every individual mercenary out there. After all the Companions are said to be descended from Ysgrammor and his 500 Companions who are some of the most highly regarded people in nordic culture where as an individual mercenary is just someone fighting for gold and somebody elses cause and where is the honour in that, because if you really boil it down that's what's at the center of nordic culture and it's the main driving force for a lot of nordic warriors such as the Companions. 

  • Member
    April 6, 2016

    Check her house, you´ll find a Black Sacrament in there

  • Member
    April 6, 2016

    Companions are known as honorable warriors (who beat money out of people, lol) so.maybe that's why they hold the monopoly over individual mercs. Maybe?

    That's what I was thinking, yeah. At the end of the day the Companions have a place in the hearts and minds of the Nords of Skyrim that the Fighters Guild doesn't.

  • Member
    April 7, 2016

    I think there is a case to be made that the reason it is so hard to pin how a Nord mercenary may be perceived is because to some degree or another they all already are. Like, the Nords going back to the very beginning are outsiders and invaders and I think an early concept was along the lines of they never feel a sense of belonging or kinship with anyone who is not a Nord. We can see in TES V how that has evolved, how Skyirm is vital to the Nords and that they do feel a sense of belonging.

    Yet some of those initial ideas remain. War and conquest are their national character, honour and glory their desire. In this sense, it is like looking at a Viking and saying, "which one is a mercenary?" Now, I'm not saying all Nords are mercenaries or any of that, but if we make a sweeping generalisation of a national identity, conquest and glory in battle is what they do.

    In terms of the sweep of history, Nords are the conquerors, founding the first empire with blood and sword. Yet that all changed after Red Mountain and Jurgen Windcaller's epiphany. If we see what happened after that and how it marked a drastic shift in Nordic culture, we see how it made Skyrim fall asleep. There was now little the race as a whole, individual honour and glory was a all a man or fighting woman could hope for. I would say that as such, mercenary work would be seen as a respectable profession, provided it didn't compromise the national identity and expectations of the society.

    But now, a son of Skyrim7 once again holds the world's destiny in his hands. If Skyrim is to awake, its rebirth will be led by these true Nords who remain its best hope for the future. [TRAVELER: I found many of these mountain villages almost empty of young men, who have been seduced into joining Septim's army by promises of wealth and glory; the village elders see little hope of their sons ever returning.] PGE 1Ed

  • April 7, 2016

    All what you said here makes me think a lot about Vikings or any Norse raiders who were sailing south to plunder, become rich and thus become famous when they return home.

    So after Red Mountain, after Tiber Septim´s Empire, Nords went kinda...soft, in your opinion?

    How about we think about it this way. If you´re member of this race for whom is fighting, drinking, boasting and fame everything, what would you do in times of peace? Become guard maybe. But what else is there? Companions and if you´re not acceptable like Uthgerd...than what you do?

  • April 7, 2016

    You just pointed in very good direction, Fawn. Remember those muscles in Maven's cabin, where you steal Frost? Who are they? 

    And what about Aringoth? Goldenglow is guarded by plenty of dudes too. So there has to be more muscle for hire in Skyrim who do the dirty work.

  • April 7, 2016

    Most likely become some kind of a bandit rather than a mercenary. Because look at it this way: when you are a merc, you do what you are told to, fight who you are told to, to get paid. The guy who pays you is most likely a type who won't or can't fight himself. And what Nord would want to receive orders from some milk drinker? The Companions kinda change that because you basically receive orders from your Harbinger instead. Otherwise, unless you are something like those mercs at the inns, I can't see a really warmongering Nord living that way.

  • April 7, 2016

    These are slightly more than bandits as I see it... Probably Maven sends them on a less honorable missions than guarding her mansion too...

    So it's either the Companions or Maven... Or sitting at an inn...

  • April 7, 2016

    Why would they be slightly more than bandits, Thorien? They get hired as building security and you think Conpanions would accept such long term contract? 

    Yes, they are hostile, but lol, it's Skyrim. They warn you to get the tusk out, but when you are somewhere where you shouldn't be they tusk you up. That doesn't make them slightly more then bandits in my mind, but good mercs I would hire to guard my house.