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Velothic Commentaries On The Dwemer And Orsimer

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  • Veloth the Prophet
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    January 22, 2016

    Well the Rourken who were Dwemer who split from the main empire in the 1st Era to live in the Alik'r and there technology and society was just as advanced as the regular empire. I imagined "orc" wasn't used as a name for the society or people but was used literally as in ostracized. Like how people just call Shaolin monks or hermits.

    Dwemer actually weren´t Dwarves, right? 

    Not sure what you mean by this?

  • Karver the Lorc
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    January 22, 2016

    By that I mean, that they were called Dwarves, but were they short? In here, we call dwarves people who are short, in fantasy it´s usually those little bearded buggers who live in mountains. So how did they get that nickname? I mean, why would people call them Dwarves when they are not short, only live underground?

    Same could be with Orcs. They could have been called that because they lived outside the society of other Dwemer.

    But, something different now. What´s Trinimac´s place in this theory? I mean, where does he fit into this? Because we clearly see that Trinimac is associated with Malacath, Orcs know Trinimac as something of their past, that he was important for them. If Orcs are actualy Dwemer...why would Trinimac be of interest to them?

  • Veloth the Prophet
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    January 22, 2016

    Ah I see, well in the Ruins of Kemel-Ze it's theories the Dwemer were called Dwarves originally by the giants who seen them as small but who knows?Not sure there is much else on that in the lore.

    Trinimac is Dumac. 

  • Karver the Lorc
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    January 22, 2016

    So Dumac was Hero-God, Knight of Aldmer, who abandoned Auri-El and decided to follow Gods of Logic instead? So Dwemer are Aldmer who just went away? Because that´s what you imply here.

    Where is that "Dwemer" are something completely different?

    I like this theory, but how does it fare against other creation myths, especially those of Altmer? This just one excerpt from Dunmeri lore, an allegory in your opinion.

    Maybe it´s just me not understanding it, so how Trinimac, Aldmeri ancestor, became Dumac, king of Dwemer?

  • Veloth the Prophet
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    January 22, 2016

    Well that is the Altmer myth though, right? All Elven societies are just off shoots of the Aldmer.

  • Karver the Lorc
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    January 22, 2016

    But only Chimer/Dunmer got it right?

    Tell me: who or what was Trinimac, if we´ll follow this theory?

  • Veloth the Prophet
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    January 22, 2016

    Not sure what you are asking?

  • Karver the Lorc
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    January 22, 2016

    Who was Trinimac then? Dwemer following Aurie-El?

    Every Orc creation myth is connected with Trinimac who was et´Ada, Knight of Auriel - backed up by other races´ creation myths. He was Aldmeri god. GOD. Complete opposite of Dwemer´s belief.

    So how can he be Dumac, King of Dwemer, when more than one source speaks against it?

    I can see the connection between Malacath and Dumac, Dwemer and Orcs, but when it comes to Trinimac, I see none.

  • Veloth the Prophet
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    January 22, 2016

    But the connection between Malacath and Dumac is the same as Trinimac and Dumac.

  • Karver the Lorc
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    January 22, 2016

    I don´t get it. Explain it to me like if I was completely dumb Orc.


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