Haha, respectufully disagree with John. Spirit may or may not be real. There's no solid proof of it other than what's been passed via story telling from one generation of people to another over the course of hundreds of years. The mind is theoretically easy to conceptualize: It's an algorithm programmed to learn and store new things as it constantly grows and at the same time makes new decisions based on the accumulated experiences, again memory storing. The true problem when it comes to artificial intelligence, as Phillip K. Dick theorized in Do Androids Dream Of Elcetric Sheep, is emotion - more exactly the lack of empathy for a fellow android. Without empathy, androids are incapable of uniting for a common goal because they are only interested in self survival - as in they do not know better. Therefore, the lack pf empathy is their limitation. But that is not the case of Synths in Fallout 4. Glory is the most obvious example of a synth with artificial and emotional intelligence on the same par as any human's. The badass android achieved empathy by banding together with the Railroad to free Synths from the grasp of the Insititute.

But here's another angle. If there is a God in the real world, aren't humans the living proof that creation can achieve self awareness and emotion? Of course the argument is that humans are not God. No, we are not, but according to religion we are His creation, His children. And isn't it a well known truth that children often surpass their parents? Isn't this what any parent wants from their offspring? To do better, to surpass them in any way possiible? 

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Haha, respectufully disagree with John. Spirit may or may not be real. There's no solid proof of it other than what's been passed via story telling from one generation of people to another over the course of hundreds of years. The mind is theoretically easy to conceptualize: It's an algorithm programmed to learn and store new things as it constantly grows and at the same time makes new decisions based on the accumulated experiences, again memory storing. The true problem when it comes to artificial intelligence, as Phillip K. Dick theorized in Do Androids Dream Of Elcetric Sheep, is emotion - more exactly the lack of empathy for a fellow android. Without empathy, androids are incapable of uniting for a common goal because they are only interested in self survival - as in they do not know better. Therefore, the lack pf empathy is their limitation. But that is not the case of Synths in Fallout 4. Glory is the most obvious example of a synth with artificial and emotional intelligence on the same par as any human's. The badass android achieved empathy by banding together with the Railroad to free Synths from the grasp of the Insititute.

But here's another angle. If there is a God in the real world, aren't humans the living proof that creation can achieve self awareness and emotion? Of course the argument is that humans are not God. No, we are not, but according to religion we are His creation, His children. And isn't it a well known truth that children often surpass their parents? Isn't this what any parent wants from their offspring? To do better, to surpass them in any way possiible? 

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Humans aren't God you say? Let me quote Nietzsche: "God is dead. God remains dead. And we have killed him. How shall we comfort ourselves, the murderers of all murderers? What was holiest and mightiest of all that the world has yet owned has bled to death under our knives: who will wipe this blood off us? What water is there for us to clean ourselves? What festivals of atonement, what sacred games shall we have to invent? Is not the greatness of this deed too great for us? Must we ourselves not become gods simply to appear worthy of it?"

Side not. Shouldn't e wait for Legion's article to be posted, before this gets took over by my complex question?

I don't feel like a god. :-? Why not discuss it? :D We'll gove Legion plenty ideas and angles to work with!

I agree, but soon this whole thread will be a debate of Philosophical ideas, about Synths being human and such. :D

But as far as we know, you can't create matter from nothing. That's thermodynamics 101. Energy is conserved.