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• Yvandil

  

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  September 2, 2016

  Hello and I'm here again to give some Tips and Tricks from my travels in Skyrim. I have first searched the group for any posts related to this topic but nothing comes up.

  On Certain Staves

  I love staves for some reason, I like the idea of an item that can conjure up magick and hit stuff. I like exploring concepts where "staves" actually amplify magical power or have powers of their own where a mage can course his magic through the staff to achieve an effect. Naturally I have had my brush with most of the staves found in Skyrim and here I present my interesting findings on them.

  Currently I will only feature 2 staves and will just list all the peculiar things I found out about them. If ever I feel like it, I might make this topic more of a compilation on staves and their peculiarities but that remains to be seen.

   

  #01 The Staff of Jyrick Gaulderson

  One of my most favorite staff in-game after I discovered some pretty awesome stuff I previously did not notice about it. Looking at some builds, none of what I saw featured the effects of staff discovered in my "Enchanter-esque" (akin to the Enchanter class in Log Horizon) playthough.

  • The staff casts a lightning bolt type attack.
  • Like lightning element spells it affects health and magicka but a slight difference: The Magicka Damage part of the spell is doubled instead of halved.
  • This is specially useful when dealing with dragons as they have a very low Magicak pool which they use in shouts.
  • The Staff has a "hidden" enchant when equiped called "Jyrick's Blessing" which increases Magicka (25) and Magicka Regen(??). I do not know if this is common knowledge but the first time I used the staff it was not obvious to me after some time.
  • You don't have to hold down the button for the lightning to release. You only need to tap it once. This was one of the coolest things about this staff as you can - with proper timing - cast the lightning really fast. There are some limitations however.
  • The staff is not tied to the destruction school therefore you cannot reduce the cost of the staff or use destruction potions to increase its damage.
  • The staff has a relatively small magicka pool(??) which means you need to horde a lot of soul gems. I did imagine this item as some kind of "gun" where you had to reload etc. Loads of fun.
  • One major bug with fast casting is that, if you manage to cast quickly enough, you will find a streak of lighting that permanently(??) hangs in the air towards the last surface the lightning hit. From that moment, everytime to cast, from any location, the lightning will travel to the last surface it hit.
  • You can remedy this by switching to the other hand or reloading.
  • The only way to increase the damage of the staff is to weaken the magic resistance of enemies via poison.

   

  #02 The Skull of Corruption

  One of the more good looking (if not creepy) staves out there. My only regret is I have to kill Erandur to get it.

  • Casting it on a dead body will fling it forward. This is probably common knowledge.
  • Like the Staff of Jyrick, you only need to tap the staff once to cast the effect.
  • Unlike the Staff of Jyrick, it actually has a very large magicka pool (??) so you can spam this baby better.
  • There are no schools of magic tied to this however (can anyone confirm?)

   

  That's it for now folks! I hope this little post will help inspire people to do more builds around these staves. I know I will haha.

  FIN

  Tags: Tips and Tricks Exploits (not really sure haha)

  Hello and I'm here again to give some Tips and Tricks from my travels in Skyrim. I have first searched the group for any posts related to this topic but nothing comes up.

  On Certain Staves

  I love staves for some reason, I like the idea of an item that can conjure up magick and hit stuff. I like exploring concepts where "staves" actually amplify magical power or have powers of their own where a mage can course his magic through the staff to achieve an effect. Naturally I have had my brush with most of the staves found in Skyrim and here I present my interesting findings on them.

  Currently I will only feature 2 staves and will just list all the peculiar things I found out about them. If ever I feel like it, I might make this topic more of a compilation on staves and their peculiarities but that remains to be seen.

   

  #01 The Staff of Jyrick Gaulderson

  One of my most favorite staff in-game after I discovered some pretty awesome stuff I previously did not notice about it. Looking at some builds, none of what I saw featured the effects of staff discovered in my "Enchanter-esque" (akin to the Enchanter class in Log Horizon) playthough.

  • The staff casts a lightning bolt type attack.
  • Like lightning element spells it affects health and magicka but a slight difference: The Magicka Damage part of the spell is doubled instead of halved.
  • This is specially useful when dealing with dragons as they have a very low Magicak pool which they use in shouts.
  • The Staff has a "hidden" enchant when equiped called "Jyrick's Blessing" which increases Magicka (25) and Magicka Regen(??). I do not know if this is common knowledge but the first time I used the staff it was not obvious to me after some time.
  • You don't have to hold down the button for the lightning to release. You only need to tap it once. This was one of the coolest things about this staff as you can - with proper timing - cast the lightning really fast. There are some limitations however.
  • The staff is not tied to the destruction school therefore you cannot reduce the cost of the staff or use destruction potions to increase its damage.
  • The staff has a relatively small magicka pool(??) which means you need to horde a lot of soul gems. I did imagine this item as some kind of "gun" where you had to reload etc. Loads of fun.
  • One major bug with fast casting is that, if you manage to cast quickly enough, you will find a streak of lighting that permanently(??) hangs in the air towards the last surface the lightning hit. From that moment, everytime to cast, from any location, the lightning will travel to the last surface it hit.
  • You can remedy this by switching to the other hand or reloading.
  • The only way to increase the damage of the staff is to weaken the magic resistance of enemies via poison.

   

  #02 The Skull of Corruption

  One of the more good looking (if not creepy) staves out there. My only regret is I have to kill Erandur to get it.

  • Casting it on a dead body will fling it forward. This is probably common knowledge.
  • Like the Staff of Jyrick, you only need to tap the staff once to cast the effect.
  • Unlike the Staff of Jyrick, it actually has a very large magicka pool (??) so you can spam this baby better.
  • There are no schools of magic tied to this however (can anyone confirm?)

   

  That's it for now folks! I hope this little post will help inspire people to do more builds around these staves. I know I will haha.

  FIN

  Tags: Tips and Tricks Exploits (not really sure haha)

• SpookyBorn2021

  

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  September 2, 2016

  Isn't the Staff of Jyrik bugged though? I always thought for some reason it tried to tag it as an attack (so staff would try and attack an enemy by increasing their Magicka Regen, on top of the health and magicka damage, that's why you get the "Enemy resisted increase magicka regen" or whatever the message was).

  Well, I did just check UESP and it says

  Equipping the Staff of Jyrik Gauldurson is also meant to apply Jyrik's Blessing, which increases Magicka and Magicka regeneration. However the script to apply the effect is not actually attached to the item.

  So regardless it doesn't work as intended, but it's still a badass staff.

  I think the fact that the Skull of Corruption is one of the msot powerful AoE Staves is also good to mention (I say second most powerful, you could probably try and convince me otherwise), but the most powerful staff ever is the Staff of Chain Lightning, because unlike most (if not all) staves it has a stagger effect, meaning when you hit an enemy, it kind of acts a little bit like you've got the Impact perk... 

  Cool topic Yvandil, definitely something that more people should keep in mind (staves are badass)

  Isn't the Staff of Jyrik bugged though? I always thought for some reason it tried to tag it as an attack (so staff would try and attack an enemy by increasing their Magicka Regen, on top of the health and magicka damage, that's why you get the "Enemy resisted increase magicka regen" or whatever the message was).

  Well, I did just check UESP and it says

  Equipping the Staff of Jyrik Gauldurson is also meant to apply Jyrik's Blessing, which increases Magicka and Magicka regeneration. However the script to apply the effect is not actually attached to the item.

  So regardless it doesn't work as intended, but it's still a badass staff.

  I think the fact that the Skull of Corruption is one of the msot powerful AoE Staves is also good to mention (I say second most powerful, you could probably try and convince me otherwise), but the most powerful staff ever is the Staff of Chain Lightning, because unlike most (if not all) staves it has a stagger effect, meaning when you hit an enemy, it kind of acts a little bit like you've got the Impact perk... 

  Cool topic Yvandil, definitely something that more people should keep in mind (staves are badass)

• Yvandil

  

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  September 2, 2016

  Oh I didnt know about that bug :o I would love to test it although I dont know how to check a target's Magicka Regen.

  As for Jyrick's Blessing, I did get an increase in Magicka on Vanilla (PC) Maybe there's a difference in versions and platforms.

  Ahh the Staff of Chain Lightning. It's so OP I don't even want to use it anymore haha. I do hope there's a place where 1 can be found at any level.

  Thanks! DB :) WE need to make more staff builds +_+

  Oh I didnt know about that bug :o I would love to test it although I dont know how to check a target's Magicka Regen.

  As for Jyrick's Blessing, I did get an increase in Magicka on Vanilla (PC) Maybe there's a difference in versions and platforms.

  Ahh the Staff of Chain Lightning. It's so OP I don't even want to use it anymore haha. I do hope there's a place where 1 can be found at any level.

  Thanks! DB :) WE need to make more staff builds +_+

• Mercurias

  

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  September 2, 2016

  Another point you might be interested in when it comes to staves is that 100% Magic Absorb in the vanilla game makes summons impossible to cast, sending the Magicka that would have gone into the spell to your Magicka bar. There have been a couple of builds which used that to turn staves like the Sanguine Rose into magical batteries for their spells. Note that the staves do consume a charge, but it goes to the player rather than casting a spell. Halldir's Staff is an odd duck worth mentioning. It has both a Calm effect as well as a whopping 60 second Soul Trap. It's very useful for enchanters who don't want to dump perks into Conjuration, and the Calm effect is great for lower level assassins to get a second Sneak Attack in on affected enemies.

  Another point you might be interested in when it comes to staves is that 100% Magic Absorb in the vanilla game makes summons impossible to cast, sending the Magicka that would have gone into the spell to your Magicka bar. There have been a couple of builds which used that to turn staves like the Sanguine Rose into magical batteries for their spells. Note that the staves do consume a charge, but it goes to the player rather than casting a spell. Halldir's Staff is an odd duck worth mentioning. It has both a Calm effect as well as a whopping 60 second Soul Trap. It's very useful for enchanters who don't want to dump perks into Conjuration, and the Calm effect is great for lower level assassins to get a second Sneak Attack in on affected enemies.
• SpookyBorn2021

  

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  September 2, 2016

  As for Jyrick's Blessing, I did get an increase in Magicka on Vanilla (PC) Maybe there's a difference in versions and platforms.

  Do you have the unofficial patches? Because that fixes it, but I suppose it could just be console players getting screwed over again.

  You know, your absolutely right, we do need some more staff builds don't we.

  As for Jyrick's Blessing, I did get an increase in Magicka on Vanilla (PC) Maybe there's a difference in versions and platforms.

  Do you have the unofficial patches? Because that fixes it, but I suppose it could just be console players getting screwed over again.

  You know, your absolutely right, we do need some more staff builds don't we.

• Yvandil

  

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  September 2, 2016

  Mercurias said: Another point you might be interested in when it comes to staves is that 100% Magic Absorb in the vanilla game makes summons impossible to cast, sending the Magicka that would have gone into the spell to your Magicka bar. There have been a couple of builds which used that to turn staves like the Sanguine Rose into magical batteries for their spells. Note that the staves do consume a charge, but it goes to the player rather than casting a spell. Halldir's Staff is an odd duck worth mentioning. It has both a Calm effect as well as a whopping 60 second Soul Trap. It's very useful for enchanters who don't want to dump perks into Conjuration, and the Calm effect is great for lower level assassins to get a second Sneak Attack in on affected enemies.

  I'll take note of this and hopefully I get to making this topic a pretty good resource on how staffs work Thanks!

  Dragonborn1721 said:

  As for Jyrick's Blessing, I did get an increase in Magicka on Vanilla (PC) Maybe there's a difference in versions and platforms.

  Do you have the unofficial patches? Because that fixes it, but I suppose it could just be console players getting screwed over again.

  You know, your absolutely right, we do need some more staff builds don't we.

   

  I did have the unofficial patches but I switched to a pure vanilla game a while ago. It still worked. I guess we have to get people testing this out again.

  Indeed indeed more staff builds! 

  [blockquote][b][url=/profile/Mercurias]Mercurias[/url] said:[/b] Another point you might be interested in when it comes to staves is that 100% Magic Absorb in the vanilla game makes summons impossible to cast, sending the Magicka that would have gone into the spell to your Magicka bar. There have been a couple of builds which used that to turn staves like the Sanguine Rose into magical batteries for their spells. Note that the staves do consume a charge, but it goes to the player rather than casting a spell. Halldir's Staff is an odd duck worth mentioning. It has both a Calm effect as well as a whopping 60 second Soul Trap. It's very useful for enchanters who don't want to dump perks into Conjuration, and the Calm effect is great for lower level assassins to get a second Sneak Attack in on affected enemies.[/blockquote]

  I'll take note of this and hopefully I get to making this topic a pretty good resource on how staffs work Thanks!

  [blockquote][b][url=/profile/Dragonborn1721]Dragonborn1721[/url] said:[/b]

  As for Jyrick's Blessing, I did get an increase in Magicka on Vanilla (PC) Maybe there's a difference in versions and platforms.

  Do you have the unofficial patches? Because that fixes it, but I suppose it could just be console players getting screwed over again.

  You know, your absolutely right, we do need some more staff builds don't we.[/blockquote] 

  I did have the unofficial patches but I switched to a pure vanilla game a while ago. It still worked. I guess we have to get people testing this out again.

  Indeed indeed more staff builds! 

• MarkedForDeath

  

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  September 2, 2016

  Do the novice-expert perks affect their respective staffs, halving the charge reduction per cast?

   

  I'm also a fan of staves in Skyrim, you should definitely make a little list of guaranteed locations for certain staves, like how you can get 4 easily in Shalidor's Maze.

  Do the novice-expert perks affect their respective staffs, halving the charge reduction per cast?

   

  I'm also a fan of staves in Skyrim, you should definitely make a little list of guaranteed locations for certain staves, like how you can get 4 easily in Shalidor's Maze.

• SpookyBorn2021

  

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  September 2, 2016

  Do the novice-expert perks affect their respective staffs, halving the charge reduction per cast?

  Nah, just increasing the skill (so level 5 might give you 1 more cast, while 100 might give you 40), it'd be nice if you could though and I think some mods change it.

  Do the novice-expert perks affect their respective staffs, halving the charge reduction per cast?

  Nah, just increasing the skill (so level 5 might give you 1 more cast, while 100 might give you 40), it'd be nice if you could though and I think some mods change it.

• Mercurias

  

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  September 2, 2016

  Dragonborn1721 said:

  Do the novice-expert perks affect their respective staffs, halving the charge reduction per cast?

  Nah, just increasing the skill (so level 5 might give you 1 more cast, while 100 might give you 40), it'd be nice if you could though and I think some mods change it.

  From what I recall reading, doesn't 100% Fortification from enchants in the school associated with the staff give it infinite casts when used? I know they give infinite uses for weapons enchanted for Destruction.

  This is a good place to post the Squib build for any who haven't seen it. The Squib trains magic, but only uses it through scrolls, staves, and enchanted weapons.

  [blockquote][b][url=/profile/Dragonborn1721]Dragonborn1721[/url] said:[/b]

  Do the novice-expert perks affect their respective staffs, halving the charge reduction per cast?

  Nah, just increasing the skill (so level 5 might give you 1 more cast, while 100 might give you 40), it'd be nice if you could though and I think some mods change it.

  [/blockquote]

  From what I recall reading, doesn't 100% Fortification from enchants in the school associated with the staff give it infinite casts when used? I know they give infinite uses for weapons enchanted for Destruction.

  This is a good place to post the Squib build for any who haven't seen it. The Squib trains magic, but only uses it through scrolls, staves, and enchanted weapons.

• MarkedForDeath

  

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  September 2, 2016

  Mercurias said:

  Dragonborn1721 said:

  Do the novice-expert perks affect their respective staffs, halving the charge reduction per cast?

  Nah, just increasing the skill (so level 5 might give you 1 more cast, while 100 might give you 40), it'd be nice if you could though and I think some mods change it.

  From what I recall reading, doesn't 100% Fortification from enchants in the school associated with the staff give it infinite casts when used? I know they give infinite uses for weapons enchanted for Destruction.

  This is a good place to post the Squib build for any who haven't seen it. The Squib trains magic, but only uses it through scrolls, staves, and enchanted weapons.

  I know Fortify [Magic School] affects staves, and so does leveling the relevant skill itself, but I wanna know if apprentice destruction will double the available charge of a firebolt staff.

  [blockquote][b][url=/profile/Mercurias]Mercurias[/url] said:[/b]

  [blockquote][b][url=/profile/Dragonborn1721]Dragonborn1721[/url] said:[/b]

  Do the novice-expert perks affect their respective staffs, halving the charge reduction per cast?

  Nah, just increasing the skill (so level 5 might give you 1 more cast, while 100 might give you 40), it'd be nice if you could though and I think some mods change it.

  [/blockquote]

  From what I recall reading, doesn't 100% Fortification from enchants in the school associated with the staff give it infinite casts when used? I know they give infinite uses for weapons enchanted for Destruction.

  This is a good place to post the Squib build for any who haven't seen it. The Squib trains magic, but only uses it through scrolls, staves, and enchanted weapons.

  [/blockquote] I know Fortify [Magic School] affects staves, and so does leveling the relevant skill itself, but I wanna know if apprentice destruction will double the available charge of a firebolt staff.