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I LOVE Fallout 76.

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  • Member
    December 5, 2018

     

    I have been playing Fallout 76 since day 1 of the Beta, 39 Levels in, and I am still having a blast!  Most of what you see out there is negative and angry vitriol, so I just wanted to speak up and say that I am thoroughly enjoying the game.  Yes, many of the criticisms are fair, but I also believe that many criticisms out there are gross exaggerations.  Of course your mileage may vary, but it appears that it's the PC's that are most struggling with issues.  My experience on PS4 has been great.  I haven't stumbled across a bug infested wasteland, nor game breaking glitches. Is the game perfect? No. Are there bugs and glitches? Yes.  But it is a far cry from broken.  Truth is, the game was rigged from the start.

    Fallout was never a mainstream game in my opinion; That is, until Fallout 4.  In that sense, I think it was a victim of its own success.  The anticipation for Fallout 4 hyped the masses and introduced many new players to the series.  In the aftermath of the Fallout 4 hype, many were disappointed because the game was not what they had envisioned and expected. I think this has once again happened with Fallout 76, but this time with a vastly larger following. Hence, greater numbers of disappointment.  If there is one mistake I would call Bethesda on, it's the naming of the game.  Nobody knew what the heck to expect with Fallout 76, and this lead to mass and wild speculation.  By the time the details of the game were finally announced, many had already made up their minds on what to expect.  As a result, many were disappointed, anticipation was shattered, and many were already ripping the game apart before it was ever released.  I think much of this anger and disappointment could've been averted by simply naming the game Fallout 4 Online. This way everyone would've known exactly what we were getting. i.e. Not a new story, not an MMO.  Would I have designed the game differently if it were up to me? Yes; as would've most people, but that doesn't mean people wouldn't still be angry.  The following for Fallout is now huge, and it wants and likes different things.  

    That being said, the game delivers precisely on what it actually is: Fallout 4 Online.  Except, the story and timeline don't coincide with Fallout 4.  Hence why it is not named as such.  As an online game that you can still play solo, Fallout 76 is a whole lot of fun. Yes, you can still play it solo if you so choose. Others may disagree, but 95% of the time I have played Fallout 76, it has been solo and yet I am still very much enjoying the game.  Personally, I would have prefered a full out MMO such as ESO, but I am certain others would've been just as angry. I never understood all the disgust for ESO either. I think that game was perfectly fine and fun as well, but I digress.  I would fully expect bugs, patches, and continued work on any online game, especially in its early stages. This should not come as a shock, it should be expected. And it certainly does not mean a game is broken.

    So, if you've played all the Fallouts (or at least FO3, FNV, and FO4), and you still want more, then yes I think you should give Fallout 76 a shot.  Think of it as DLC to hold you over until the next stand alone Fallout game. I think that was the Bethesda's intention with this game anyway, in addition to capitlizing on and putting to use already developed Fallout 4 content.  If you enjoy online games, enjoy Fallout 4, and/or would like to have a Fallout game you can actually play with friends, then you should also give Fallout 76 a shot.  If you don't like playing games online, then this game is not for you.  If you didn't enjoy Fallout 4, or only enjoy games with a deep story, then this game is probably not for you.  If you are a New Vegas fan, and this is the only Fallout game you like, then this game is definitely not for you.  No, I don't feel robbed or cheated.  Nylon bag and all, I still am very happy with my Power Armor edition that cost $200.  I was fully aware that I would be receiving a plastic collectible toy when I pre-ordered it.  No it's not Free-to-play, but I'm also not paying a monthly subscription fee; Nor am I paying a ridiculous recurring fee for extra storage as with most free-to-play games.  I love that I only paid a one time fee for the game, and yes I got my money's worth. 

    Personally, I believe every Fallout game is unique and fun in its own way.  Fallout 3 is my favorite for its dark and dreary setting, its location, and of course the music.  Only Three Dog could make wandering the depressing Capital Wasteland a pleasure-- Owww. I enjoy New Vegas when I'm in a western kind of mood.  I love that jingle, jangle, jingle, but I can't handle a single more Johnny Guitar.  So, when I want to see some actual living NPC's, rather than the same old AI robo brain NPC's, I like to crawl out to the Fallout 76.  I know for a fact that many others are also enjoying game, but it's not too often you hear about it.  Though it should be evident by the plethora of people still playing the game.  I love that the online shop only sells visual enhancement items, and that you can purchase things with earned in-game currency without having to spend any actual money (unless you are so inclined, but that's your own fault.)  I love the enormous map of Fallout 76, the beautiful new scenery, and the vast array of new creatures. I love that you can in fact still play completely solo if and when you want to.  I love that you can play with friends. I love that it still contains Fallout lore, factions, and in fact still has a story present. I love the updated weapons and weapon system that combines the best elements of the weapon systems in Fallout 3, NV, and 4, to make the best weapon system we've seen yet.  I love that building in Fallout 76 actually serves a purpose, and one might say is actually essential to your survival and well being.  I love that power armor is once again enjoyable to wear, build, and collect.  But what I love the most about Fallout 76 is the realism brought on by the unpredictability of the wasteland and those who inhabit it.  You never know if you're going run across a group of raiders looking to give you a hard time, run accross someone in dire need that needs your help, find yourself being rescued by a good samaritan at the unlikeliest of moments, or just have a slow day that leaves you longing to come across another living soul.  The best part is that these interactions can and will happen naturally, without you having to party up, or wait in queue to load an instance as you would in most MMO's.  So, there you have it. I LOVE Fallout 76!

     

    It's all over but the crying.

  • Member
    December 5, 2018

    I too enjoy 76. Is it flawed, oh hell yeah! But, then again, like ESO, it may improve with time

  • December 5, 2018

    Good to see someone that likes the game talking about it. I as a PC player knew since the beginning that this would go two ways one they would release a game without the issues plaguing the previous games or two they will release a game with the same problems and it will be a disaster. Also I want to make it clear that I like FO76 as a concept for a game and might play it at some point, my problem is only with technical issues and what Bethesda was doing in their games for years since Morrowind.

    You are right PC has a lot more problems compared to console. I am a PC and mmo player in general, tried FO76 BETA and I knew this was not a game to be released on PC at the state it was. It was very rushed. It was clear as day that this was made to cater to consoles and the marketing was heavily leaning towards consoles as well even at the event with all the influencers they had them play on console with 4k graphics and often single digits fps in order to showcase the game. It was ported very poorly on PC. Yes they are correcting problems like push to talk, framerate tied to physics etc but the damage has already been done and the way they go it will be hard to reverse. That being said I never had a problem with the game's concept in general on the contrary if it didn't have all these issues (DoF, key binding is also game breaker for me etc) I would probably play it.

    The main problem right now isn't just FO76 as a game or the concept of the game but everyone started to realise it's not the game but Bethesda as a producer. The main issue is what some people knew already became known to a larger amount of people playing Bethesda's games. This is the issue: Click Here I was aware that this was a thing since Oblivion but it actually starts from Morrowind.

    What PC offers over console is more options. These options were limited to a huge amount due to all the technical issues.There are some major issues for PC at least that they should have fixed (already fixed by modders) but they didn't, not because they couldn't but because they became lazy and are used to the modding system of their games. For example I was informed and shown that the problem with Key Binding which is a pretty big issue actually for many people including me was the same in FO4 and was fixed by the modding community. So, the problem is not exactly FO76 or its content but Bethesda themselves and their inability to deliver a game that doesn't have major issues like these, I 'm not saying a bug free game, something like that doesn't exist but a game that doesn't have such issues which are being fixed game after game by modders but never by Bethesda themselves.

    FO76 wasn't in and of itself as a game the issue many people were actually excited about it before the beta but after its release it was what made people aware of what I mention above and what is mentioned on the video I linked and that is why right now the community is so much against FO76 which could be a very good game and if marketed correctly it could have won the survival genre mmo.

    I really hope for the best for the FO fans out there and most importantly for Bethesda's next games.

  • December 6, 2018

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts LyonsKnight, it's really nice to see the game from your perspective. I definitely have to agree with you (mostly) on the way to think about the game, because it really doesn't work if you pretend it's a stand alone...but at the same time it kind of is. It's why I keep thinking of it as a spin-off, just seems right to me. 

  • December 6, 2018

    I haven't played any previous FO games, I will be geting FO4 and FNV this month probably but after playing FO76 on beta and then having a look at the other FO games (spoiled a few things but oh well :P) I would also think of it as a spin off rather than something mainstream like the other games.

    Also I believe it will be 10 plus years before a FO game is produced (if they will ever produce another one) since I don't think they would work on Starfield, ES6 and a new FO so for the people who like FO and want some more FO content FO76 will probably be the deal for quite a few years and it will probably get improved down the line on PC at least but the bad start and some other things had a big impact on many peoples' opinions about the game including long time fans of Bethesda.

  • December 6, 2018

    My husband and I are enjoying it as well, but yeah, we've encountered some of the quest-breaking bugs, so that has been frustrating. However, the pleasure of being able to fiinally play something with him is outweighing the problems. We are finding that we strategize pretty well together and have begun starting to take complimentary perks. We are also organizing our camps to be strategic locations. Right now, mine is not, but I am more picky about where the location is (it has to be pretty) :D. 

     

  • Member
    December 16, 2018

    Chris said:

    I too enjoy 76. Is it flawed, oh hell yeah! But, then again, like ESO, it may improve with time

    I'm glad you are enjoying it as well!

  • Member
    December 17, 2018

    Dragonborn2021 said:

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts LyonsKnight, it's really nice to see the game from your perspective. I definitely have to agree with you (mostly) on the way to think about the game, because it really doesn't work if you pretend it's a stand alone...but at the same time it kind of is. It's why I keep thinking of it as a spin-off, just seems right to me. 

    My pleasure.

    Yes, its focus is definitely on the online play.  However, I've been pleasantly surprised at how much story I've experienced in the game so far. I wasn't expecting much, if any story at all, with all the talk of "no NPC's."  And yet, I've also pleasantly surprised that there -are- actually NPC's in the game, just no living human NPC's.  And while the tediousness of reading letters, browsing through terminals, and listening to holotypes took an adjustment period, I've come to appreciate the stories that have been buried therein.  There's actually quite a bit of story in Fallout 76, and to be fair, it's not bad! I particularly enjoyed piecing together the story of the incident at Huntersville by means of discovering holotopes, letters, and terminal journals related to the incident.  I was quite impressed by how the different accounts from dead NPC's (or non-existent NPC's) had come together and managed to paint a vivid picture in my mind of the events that had transpired there, even as I stood next to the corpse at the center of the now completely desolate town. (Without revealing any spoilers,) I was further impressed with how they'd managed to tell a story when I discovered some very cool and interesting visual cues situated near the location which also added to the story without a word being spoken or written.

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    December 17, 2018

    The Long-Chapper said:

    My husband and I are enjoying it as well, but yeah, we've encountered some of the quest-breaking bugs, so that has been frustrating. However, the pleasure of being able to fiinally play something with him is outweighing the problems. We are finding that we strategize pretty well together and have begun starting to take complimentary perks. We are also organizing our camps to be strategic locations. Right now, mine is not, but I am more picky about where the location is (it has to be pretty) :D. 

     

    Nice! It's good to hear you've been enjoying it as well. I can imagine encountering quest-breaking bugs can be frustrating. In my experience said bugs can be fixed by switching servers.  I have to say I'm rather sad that the killing Evan glitch was patched... I feel that it had become a right of passage for Fallout 76! lol.  The need for strategizing is definitely one of my favorite things about Fallout.  LOL, I feel you on the pretty locations.  I've moved my camp around a few times, but it always comes back to my happy place in the suburbs of Charleston-- both quiet and pretty! :)