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The Spinners and the Valenwood

  • Member
    July 26, 2014
    Thanks Rune, interestingly, Spinners can use things like plucked flowers, so I'll have to either find them laying about, or buy them. Does Frost Mirriam hanging in a person's home count as plucked?
  • Member
    July 26, 2014

    There is a quest in ESO where the wife of the spinner hires a Khajiit to cut a flower and arrange for her husband to find it plucked on the next day. Player uncovers the truth and has the option to sacrifice either the wife, the Khajiit or the spinner as a form of retribution. As far as I know, the Green accepts either of them, so using a plucked sacred flower is a violation of the Green Pact. As of Frost Mirriam, I think not 

  • July 26, 2014

    the green pact is interpreted differently even amongst Bosmer. Many Bosmer will use (dead) plants outside of Valenwood while many others will not use plants from anywhere (including 'dead' ones). Personally I never use any plant material when role-playing a Bosmer. Besides, you can make practically every potion without using plants.

    (Edit: I do wish we had some 'bone' handle options in vanilla for certain tools/weapons to get away from wooden handles.)

  • Member
    July 26, 2014
    So, using a sacred flower is not OK? So, if I just found a blue mountain flower laying on a bed (don't ask why), I can't use it
  • July 26, 2014

    I wouldn't but I never use any plant material when role-playing a Bosmer; my Bosmer characters always take a strict view of the Green Pact (to be on the safe side).

  • Member
    July 26, 2014

    I don't think Blue Mountain Flower is sacred to the Bosmer. Here is the quest that I mentioned - Link. The flower in question was Sanguine Alendil - a special sacred blossom said to be able to cure any illness 

  • Member
    July 29, 2014
    Would a Spinner being able to shift his form be lore breaking?
  • July 29, 2014

    Seems so:

    Y'ffre gave them the power to tell stories, but warned them against trying to shape themselves.

    Any Wood Elf that violated the Green Pact, either by shifting or...

    Shifting and the destruction of the forest were forbidden.

    Although you specifically said 'able'. I guess technically 'being able' and 'actually doing' is two different tings. So they may be ok if they had the actual ability, but didn't make use of it.

    And again, although this article allows for the use of 'dead' plants in alchemy, no Bosmer versed in alchemy, that I ever play, will...

  • Member
    July 29, 2014
    Hmm, so, what is the connection between Jephre and the Spinners? I mean, they seem like...priests to her and guardians of this Ooze, but, can she actually speak to them? Or is she in Aetherius?
  • July 29, 2014

    They are priests to him (I've only seen Jephre referenced as a male). But I have no idea how any of the priests in the ES universe speak to their deity on a daily basis. But seeing how the spinners can tell of the future, I'm inclined to think they have some way of communicating.

    Useful Links:

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:The_Green_Singing

    http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Jephre

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