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Talos' Doctrine or the Lack of It

Tags: #Aedra  #Religion  #Historical Figures 
  • October 15, 2018

    Chris said:

    Ah, but then you have the interpretation where the only reason Tiber could Shout at all was due to Wulfarth, who might have appeared as the titular Stormcrown above him, and his possible assassination of Emperor Cu Chulainn, slitting his own throat to throw off suspicions. How many Emperors, especially in Rome, assumed their thrones due to treachery, whether by their own hand, or that of a relative or the like?

    Hjalti went to the Greybeards before the Stormcrown thing and they recognized him as a Dragonborn. Also the book says that it protected him, but what implies that he could Shout only because of it? And the assassination happened before he betrayed and killed Wulfharth.

    What do the Roman emperors have to do with this and what point do they prove here?

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    October 15, 2018

    Justiciar Thorien said:

    Chris said:

    Ah, but then you have the interpretation where the only reason Tiber could Shout at all was due to Wulfarth, who might have appeared as the titular Stormcrown above him, and his possible assassination of Emperor Cu Chulainn, slitting his own throat to throw off suspicions. How many Emperors, especially in Rome, assumed their thrones due to treachery, whether by their own hand, or that of a relative or the like?

    Hjalti went to the Greybeards before the Stormcrown thing and they recognized him as a Dragonborn. Also the book says that it protected him, but what implies that he could Shout only because of it? And the assassination happened before he betrayed and killed Wulfharth.

    What do the Roman emperors have to do with this and what point do they prove here?

    Huh, I recall reading somewhere that Wulfarth was the only reason he could Shout, can't remember where though.

     

    And well, just that Emperors tend to be backstabbers and warmongers

  • October 15, 2018

    Chris said:

    Huh, I recall reading somewhere that Wulfarth was the only reason he could Shout, can't remember where though.

    That would be quite strange because of three things.

    First, if Hjalti could only Shout because of Wulfharth, this means he was not a Dragonborn but an average Joe. Which cannot be possible at least because the dragon Nahfahlaar pledged allegiance to him later, and dragons don't serve average Joes.

    Second, Wulfharth himself was not a Dragonborn.

    Hjalti most likely could Shout even before he met Wulfharth because the Greybeards had called him to the High Hrothgar before that and they knew about him even when Wulfharth didn't. How would they know if he did not Shout?

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    October 18, 2018

    I am enjoying this post and comments. There's something I always found fascinating about the mythos surrounding Talos.