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• Vincent

  

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  January 2, 2012 9:32 PM EST

  The ending! I thought it was horrible. You kill Alduin in Sovngarde, he explodes so you cant even collect anything off his corpse, and you go back to skyrim. When you get back to skyrim you have no more main quest line quests, I felt lost when i returned. No one congratulates you, you get no rewards or anything. Its just over... Sorry im really just venting.  But for discussion, does any one else feel the same way? If you were a developer, What would you have done differently to end it? Or did you like it and why?

  Edit: I dont really think it was horrible. I guess it was just an over reaction from when i posted this right after i beat it. Im still dissapointed though.

• Ponty

  

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  January 2, 2012 10:18 PM EST

  I liked how I got the ability to summon a dragon and a hero from Sovngarde.

• Mathersfrench

  

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  January 2, 2012 10:19 PM EST

  I liked it to be honest. You killed the world eater. Your destiny as dragonborn has been completed. I think it wrapped up the main quest nicely.

   

• Jordan Butler

  

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  January 2, 2012 10:38 PM EST

  I enjoyed it, but you are right. There is a really uneventful welcome back to the real world. Maybe when you acquire all dragon shouts, or *SPOILER* kill Parthurnax, you'll get some big "look at all this sucker did" reward. All in all, I thoroughly enjoyed finishing up the quest line.

• Vincent

  

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  January 2, 2012 10:52 PM EST

  Ok yeah i think i over reacted a bit because i was upset. i posted this right after i beat it. It wasnt horrible but i still am upset. i have feel like i have no sense of direction on the character i beat the game with now. and when i said "what would you ahve done differently" i mean if you were a developer, how would you change the game.

• Evan

  

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  January 3, 2012 12:39 AM EST

  I hear ya, Wish I could've had more to do in Sovngarde. 

• Gareth Evans

  

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  January 3, 2012 3:39 AM EST

  The ending wasn't terrible, I think the moment when you reappear on the Throat of the World and Paarthurnax, Oodavhing and the other dragons welcome you was well done. The biggest disappointment for me was Alduin himself. You never really get to know anything about him other than he's evil and wants to eat the world. The closest you get to a personal encounter with him was the half-assed conversation in Kynesgrove. I was hoping for a little more interaction with the main villain, instead he's 'just another dragon' that you and a bunch of people you have no connection with leap on and hack to bits.

• Ponty

  

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  January 3, 2012 3:46 AM EST

  The first time I saw all those dragons I was just like "OH SHIT, STORM CALL" then they all flew off and Paarthurnax and Odahviing attacked me  Lucky it autosaved when I returned to Tamriel!

• Witschas

  

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  January 3, 2012 6:34 AM EST

  I very much agree with you here!
  I never really felt Alduin was a big villain. In Oblivion we had Mankar Cammoran who ended up being a real opponent, simply because he talked to you all the way through his Paradise. He suddenly got complexity. Alduin is just a grumpy dragon you have to chase down and kill.

• Pete Vernon

  

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  January 3, 2012 7:24 AM EST

  i always thought alduin would have been a small boss while a daedric lord was behind everything and that you had to continue into his realm to stop him. but yes the ending was a big disappointment especially after all we do and the gaurds and people still wonder who dragonborn is. but although the dragons celebrating me was fricken awesome.

• Guy Corbett

  

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  January 3, 2012 8:13 AM EST

  I wouldnt go as far as to say im disappointed with the way the main quest finished. Those last few quests leading to solvngard were excellent and the level design was suprinsingly fun. But i did want to know more about alduin. The biggest feeling i got from it when i got back to the throat of the world was that it wasnt over. The dlc bethesda have said they will release will be bigger and fewer than other games and i expect something will happen with regard to the civil war and the death of alduin. Just my two pennies worth......

• Paul

  

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  January 3, 2012 8:20 AM EST

  I haven't finished the main quest myself, and my character won't be doing for some time

  But one of the things I'm hearing from this and many other threads is the disappointment that your epic deeds don't get noticed by the rest of the world. It's like you kill the World Eater, and yet you still get banged up in jail for accidentally picking up a fork!

  And nobody seems to know, or notice, or care that you just saved the world! It's the same with the Guilds. I'm Archmage, and the people at the College still treat me like something they scraped off their shoes. That's just not right.

  I mean even Morrowind did that better. When you kill Dagoth Ur, you can walk around the streets and people comment on it, and fawn all over you. And the blight storms have gone, so even the weather improves!

• Guy Corbett

  

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  January 3, 2012 8:47 AM EST

  I have to admit i was expecting at least a fanfare for my efforts at saving skyrim especially being a high elf.

  The number of times ive nearly killed the hold mage in whiterun for his derogatory comments with my most powerful spells ive lost count. The mage quest line was one of the first i did and im like you, arch mage, show some respect lol

  J'zargo didnt last at the college either he got enlisted to the blades ......by me lol

• Dreema

  

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  January 3, 2012 9:00 AM EST

  Burn me for a heretic, but I actually like the way you're anonymous afterwards.  If you go and speak with Arngeir, he puts forward to you that your destiny is now in your hands: you can crow about your deeds, or you can fade quietly.  After all, no one in the world knew who the World Eater was, that he had come back, or anything about the Dragonborn or the fights you had done.  There is no Twitter in that world - deeds don't go viral.  If you go any more than 20 miles away from High Hrothgar, no one has heard of you or what you've done.  And even after you kill the guy there are still dragons everywhere.  Actually it's a bit of a rush to put dragons down and then have someone in a podunk village running out saying "Did you see that?!"

  I think the fight could have been bigger, sure, but I like the idea that my character doesn't have everyone bowing and scraping to her everywhere she goes - that got rather boring in Morrowind after a while.  Let people know my character for the other deeds like being a Harbinger, or a Guild Master, or something along those lines.  Or just let me fade away...as that makes picking pockets all the easier!

• Gareth Evans

  

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  January 3, 2012 9:17 AM EST

  I would agree that I wouldn't want everyone bowing to me, that would lose some of the personal feel of interacting with the world. And the Dragonborn does seem to be a bit more of a secret than, say, the Champion of Cyrodiil in Oblivion. In Oblivion you have official ranks that people recognize, which suits a hero of Cyrodiil just fine. In a more wild region like Skyrim, it seems unlikely you would get much official respect.

  Still, it wouldn't hurt if the guards were a little less spiteful to you. And it does seem like word would spread throughout the ranks of either the Legion or the Stormcloaks, depending what side you're on, of your abilities. They at least could give you a little respect.

• Dreema

  

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  January 3, 2012 9:20 AM EST

  granted, my character is a bosmer.  I would expect them to all hate me on sight - and they do! - right up to the point where I kill a dragon outside their gates.  THEN the guards give me a rather grudging respect, although I still get snide remarks about the thieves' guild armour I'm wearing and the fact my character isn't a Nord.  I guess I just see this as a realistic response - and I prefer that over the forelock-tugging "You're practically a legend around here!" that I got in previous incarnations.

• Tygravius

  

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  January 3, 2012 10:55 AM EST

  I think alot of people wanted some sort of, how shall I say it in the movie business, a crane shot at the end. You know, where the camera at the end of movies lifts up and fades back off to the sunset with Master Arngeir doing a narritive about your sucess's and journey being Dragonborn, blah, blah, blah, blah.....That's what I love about Skyrim how there's no real "cut aways" if any at all. Just the beginning, that's it. And to have EVERYONE congratulate you from here on out would get sooooo annoying. Every NPC saying "thank you, you're the best" over and over? ugh. I get tired of "hey, don't I know you?" by the guards. haha!!! (sorry, started to troll it up)

  After I killed Alduin I didn't go back into the Hall in Souvengarde. I did think I would get recongition back in Skyrim(a little, not much, depends your path and who you speak to and that's fine). For some reason, not sure if this is true, but maybe if I would have gone back into the Hall, I would have been praised by all the warriors in there. Maybe something you're looking for.

• Tygravius

  

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  January 3, 2012 10:58 AM EST

  I smell what your steppin in though.

• Guy Corbett

  

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  January 3, 2012 11:04 AM EST

  I agree with you it would be really annoying if all the npc's just got down and licked your boots all the time. But then you should be able to go to the Big NPC characters ulfric, jarls etc and they should be aware of what youve been upto. I think the biggest let down was the civil war that just finished without the new king being named i thought there would be more.

• Tygravius

  

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  January 3, 2012 11:12 AM EST

  Yeah, your right. A little love from the Jarls would have been cool.

  As to the Civil War, I think the DLC may have some sort of part in it. Most likely the Thalmor. It's a little refreashing that's there's no "real big ending" in Skyrim. That's the way Bethesda wanted it. It's definatly more heavy on the role-playing side than "power through, give me my cake, fuck all of you, I'm the shit....next!!!!" haha!!

• Brett Collins

  

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  January 3, 2012 11:42 AM EST

  Because slaying the son of a god isn't a big deal at all...

  It was a bit underwhelming, but Alduin was far more than a grumpy dragon...

• Gareth Evans

  

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  January 3, 2012 1:49 PM EST

  "Because slaying the son of a god isn't a big deal at all..."

  That's precisely my point. Alduin is important, he should have had some character to go along with it. You never get the opportunity to converse with him or even understand his motives. An anonymous villain can be effective (like Sauron in the Lord of the Rings novels), but there's none of the necessary compelxity to make that work with Alduin.

  I like the suggestions that some people think he might be Akatosh himself, but what does Alduin think of it all? Is he deranged, does he think he is Akatosh, does he think he's doing Akatosh's bidding, is he doing it out of spite, does he love his father, hate him, embrace his teachings, reject them?

  I was anticipating some deep conversation with him, like a twisted version of Paarthurnax, but all he did was show up, go through all the typical dragon motions, and then get jumped by a bunch of Nordic ghosts while I wondered what the hell was going on.

  With Mankar Camoran, you got to understand his viewpoint, and his religion, and even when he was dead, we got the shocking confrontation with Merhunes Dagon afterwards. None of that with Alduin.

• Vincent

  

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  January 3, 2012 4:27 PM EST

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• Vincent

  

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  January 3, 2012 4:28 PM EST

  needless to say i failed. someone embed it if they are feeling generous.

• Paul

  

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  January 3, 2012 5:06 PM EST

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